???diffs???

4x4skid · Post by **4x4skid** » Tue May 01, 2007 12:09 am

hi to all,

i have often wonderd about lockers, back in the day me and mates would blow a diff in the car and would weld the spiders and be back rolling again with more reliable 2wheel burnouts than ever before and never once blew a welded diff!

now on this site ive only read about 1 truck with a welded diff and it wasnt up and running yet,

so, any1 who has welded the spiders on thier trucks and got away with it or had troubles please share your story, or your mates,

cheers

spanky · Post by **spanky** » Tue May 01, 2007 8:06 am

yeah so did i ,was the the only way of doing good donuts back when limited slip diffs cost the same as the car and there wasnt many avaliable either.my scudo diff will be welded shortly when i do my axle seals , we used to take a 2wd corrola wagon through 42 traverse when the track was bad , had a welded diff ,12inch datsun mags with 25 inch quad tyres running about 5 psi, the same car went all through the tracks up there, i am all for welded diffs . cheers
vaughan

wjw · Post by **wjw** » Tue May 01, 2007 8:44 am

Welded diffs aren't legal on the road tho...

4x4skid · Post by **4x4skid** » Tue May 01, 2007 11:44 am

cheers guys, keep em cummin, had thort about the legal fact, hav spare carrier for th rear come warent time, and leave the front hubs dissengaged should be fine, its not goning to be an everyday truck so ill either b offroad or fixing it for the next weekend,

plese keep sharing stories

Petemcc · Post by **Petemcc** » Tue May 01, 2007 12:01 pm

your steering will be bloody heavy and your turning off road will be crap. if i was gone weld id just do it to the back.

Pete

rudrty · Post by **rudrty** » Tue May 01, 2007 6:30 pm

hey mate, yeah i agree with you a welded diff is a easy cheep option but wnat tires are you running?? because if you are going to drive it even half a hour to and from your muddy play ground the tire wear will be interesting. and i wouldent weld the front. ive had lokkas in front an rear and they disengage but are still a pain in the a#$e.
i was weld the rear but watch ur tread.

xorph · Post by **xorph** » Tue May 01, 2007 6:47 pm

I have a welded rear in my suzuki
I dont know what everyone moans about. The small price you pay in reduced steering is nothing compared to off road performance increase. The only time it matters is if you do trials. In the bush you pretty much dont even need a steering wheel you just follow the ruts. When I had the orig motor tended to understeer a bit but with v8 on front cant notice.
My cruiser has the factory diff locks that never want to engage/disengage so i just put them both in most of the time. stops you cross axling out all the ruts as well.

4x4skid · Post by **4x4skid** » Tue May 01, 2007 11:16 pm

cheers guys, im only running 33''s at the mo planing to move on to atleast sum 35''s a soon as funds are sufficiant. xorph how was your tire wear on road??

mroffroader · Post by **mroffroader** » Wed May 02, 2007 7:10 am

Don't do it to the rear if you use it on the road!!! Do it to the front...BECUASE if the front is welded as soon as you disingage the front diff (eg. go back to 2wd for on the road) and disengage the front hubs the locked front does not give any problems. Don't do it to the rear as you tyres will wear out very quickly its not legal and it's very hard to drive. I had the front welded on my old nissan safari and I only every had a problem with it once, that was wen i was in 4x4 and drove on some tarceal and the powersteer belt started to slip. i just disengaged the hubs untill i was back on dirt etc and it was fine again. If you do not have power steering it would not be wise to weld the front....

my 0.0002c worth :wink:

4x4skid · Post by **4x4skid** » Wed May 02, 2007 9:32 am

hmm thats different, i gues if anythings gona give probs with steering it wd b a big tank like a safari intresting to find no probs, did you go through many cv's axels hubs ect?

swampa · Post by **swampa** » Wed May 02, 2007 10:08 am

welding the front? hmmmm...

Petemcc · Post by **Petemcc** » Wed May 02, 2007 10:50 am

wot type of truck have you got? find some cheap diffs and weld them up see how it goes. have heard of people using lead or something like that so that you can remelt it to get it out of the diff if you dont like it. or even if you know some one with a blown diff with stuffed spiders you could get that for cheap.

Cheers Pete

4x4skid · Post by **4x4skid** » Wed May 02, 2007 11:03 am

hi

i got a nissan navara with hilux beams in it, the lead sounds like a good idea and so does just trying it,

dont det me wrong i appreciate al stories good and bad, but the saying you cant please every1 is rite, if i talk of air lockers then the people with lockrites say air is crap coz youve only gota crimp a hose and ur screwd, talk about lockrites and the people with air lockers say permanatly locked is a bitch,

every1 has an opinion and im still intrested in wot ppl think, i still need 2 finish truck get cert and wof b4 locking anything, any info b4 then much apreciated

cheers Skid

xorph · Post by **xorph** » Wed May 02, 2007 6:39 pm

didnt realise you wanted to drive it on road. I never drove it on road but i do a-frame it on road. I tow it with road tyres on back and then swap muddies on when i get there. I think i loose about a mm of tread every time i tow it say to coromandel and back. so yeah tire wear is heavy and it also handles bad especially in wet.
If you have front hubs and your doin everything really cheap yeah weld front diff, just not as fun. :twisted:

It will make your front steering REALLY hard.