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Beginner- Landcruiser 70 series

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:27 pm
by Hennes
Hi all,

First I wanna introduce myself. I am Markus and we relocated from Germany last year. Since a friend took me along to a 4WD trip I am infected with the 4WD virus. It was really great. Now I am looking for a decent 4WD for a beginnner to join a club to learn how to drive offroad.

I like the old squared shaped Landcruiser 70 series. At trademe I found the following cruiser:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=108899332&key=369726
Of course I wanna have a look at the car first, before bid for it.
What are you guys thinking about this car? Is the price reasonable?

Cheers

Markus

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:44 pm
by turoa
Welcome to ORE Markus.

Personally, I think its only worth about $8000. Thats only my opininon though.

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:18 pm
by Jerry
What area of NZ are you located?

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:23 pm
by Hennes
Thanks for your answer Turoa.
Jerry, I am living in Christchurch

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:27 pm
by kiwipete
Wey hey another chch newbie, welcome to ORE dude. :wink:

Recon we must have the highest membership/interest per capita here in chch. 8)

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:40 pm
by kaney
welcome... doesnt seem like a bad deal, bit over priced really but it depends what sort of life it has had and wha condition in

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:53 pm
by Sadam_Husain
kaney wrote:welcome... doesnt seem like a bad deal, bit over priced really but it depends what sort of life it has had and wha condition in


didnt think it would take long for the prado guru's to start popping up :shock:

looks like a good buy but probabaly a bit too pricey for my thinking :?

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:04 pm
by Hennes
Thanks for the nice welcome and the answers.

@ Chch locals:
I had a look at the car dealers in town but I couldnt find something similar!
Do you have any ideas where to look?

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:13 pm
by oldblue
Looks like the one that is owned by a chap that works for Land Transport. as a truck WOF inspector, seen it a while back on a couple of Nelson 4WD Club trips.
So would think it would be well serviced.

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:30 pm
by kaney
search prado in chch u never know what you may find 8) :roll: 8) :roll:


...on trademe that is, could also try the buysell

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:30 am
by Jerry
didnt think it would take long for the prado guru's to start popping up


Hey...Prado's are Landcruisers too...Are you jealous coz they have comfy seats and aircon ....and cupholders :lol:

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:14 am
by Disco-Blue
Hennes wrote:Thanks for the nice welcome and the answers.

@ Chch locals:
I had a look at the car dealers in town but I couldnt find something similar!
Do you have any ideas where to look?



Hard to find a good one in CHCH for a good price, most are being sold by carl dealers who just have stupid prices o nthem. I had to go all the way to invercargill to get mine.

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:47 am
by fweddy
I got mine (BJ74 - pre-prado but with comfy seats and aircon ....and cupholders) from Timaru

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 3:46 pm
by Jerry
Depends how much $$$ you want to spend on it, consider that its going to be going offroad as well so its not going to remain a shiny truck either.

Best option is to have a look at the different vehicles on the next ORE or club trips, see how they go, how they suit your space requirements, will it fit kids (if you have them) is your missus comfortable in it? What mods can you do to it, parts supply? engine reliability?.

Look at TM for buys as well, drag someone knowllegable around to look at it, perhaps there are ones for sale in ORE & clubs down there. Dealers usually want top dollar plus more for anything on their lot.

Depends if you want it as a daily driver as well....If you want something cheap look at a Landcruiser (although these seem to go for stupidly high prices at times), or a Nissan Safari (Patrol), or a Terrano or a Jeep, can pick up cheap disco's (discovery) ..... each vehicle has its good and bad points

Re: Beginner- Landcruiser 70 series

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:28 pm
by markr
Hennes wrote:Hi all,

First I wanna introduce myself. I am Markus and we relocated from Germany last year. Since a friend took me along to a 4WD trip I am infected with the 4WD virus. It was really great. Now I am looking for a decent 4WD for a beginnner to join a club to learn how to drive offroad.

I like the old squared shaped Landcruiser 70 series. At trademe I found the following cruiser:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=108899332&key=369726
Of course I wanna have a look at the car first, before bid for it.
What are you guys thinking about this car? Is the price reasonable?

Cheers

Markus



I own one of these... They are very capable 4x4. If you want to spend more money on it, you can't do better....

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:30 pm
by Jerry
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 33.htm?p=7

This one may be worth a look at...I think he is on ORE as well...

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:34 pm
by Sadam_Husain
Jerry wrote:http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-110668433.htm?p=7

This one may be worth a look at...I think he is on ORE as well...


there's a very famuilar avatar in that auction
:wink:


kaney wrote:search prado in chch u never know what you may find 8) :roll: 8) :roll:


...on trademe that is, could also try the buysell

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:49 pm
by Jerry
found these as well

this is a MWB one and looks like its hardly been offroad
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 3.htm?p=23

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 85.htm?p=3

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 5.htm?p=19

If you get a stock one then you will need to budget for a set of mud tyres and rims $1500, Snorkel $300-500, Decent suspension you are looking from $1500-$3000, Kaneys one has already had the 2.4 head done so there shouldn't be any worries there...

PM him and have a look.......

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:24 pm
by kaney
would like to say that you are welcome to come around and have a look but it is sold as of today :P

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:45 pm
by Hennes
Thanks for your help guys !
I will use the car as my daily driver as well. As I am not an expert/mechanic in cars I am looking for a well maintained cruiser.

Jerry, this one looks very good!
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-109304573.htm
I am wondering whether I (1.95m tall) fit in the car or not?

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:35 pm
by Jerry
Give the guy a call and go and have a look at it, see if you like it, see if someone on here who is a mechanical typr can go along with you, his number is listed 021 454197. you should be able to fit in ... otherwise just stick your head out the window

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 7:03 am
by Mattman
If you can see if you can get one with coil springs rather than the earlier leaf springs.

The coils will ride a LOT better and flex just as well.

Matt.

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 8:01 pm
by smurf182
The coil and leaf 70 Series are completely different vehicles, they have different chassis and running gear, it's not really a case of early models having leafs and late models having coils.

http://www.brian894x4.com/LC70mainpage.html

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 8:49 pm
by Jerry
Big choice eh? will you suffer with leaf springs or go for a Prado and risk a cracked head.....

The 3500 diesel motor doesn't have the head cracking problem I believe...

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 8:59 pm
by fweddy
this is a MWB one and looks like its hardly been offroad
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 3.htm?p=23


Looks to be a SWB with a cut down MWB FRP top on it. was originally a ragtop by the sound of it.

Nice looking wee truck tho. I doubt you'll have any trouble with height esp with a FRP top. I have heaps of room to bounce round in mine and I'm 6ft

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:03 pm
by Jerry
Reserve was $10000, the guys number is on this thread, give him a call an go and see it, maybe make him an offer if you like it and theres a cupholder for your latte :lol:

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:37 pm
by SMOKEY
Hi Markus (Hennes),

Welcome to NZ and ORE,
I have had a little bit of experience with 70 series Landcruisers :wink: and alot of other makes of 4WD's.
I would like to share some of my experience with you in helping you to get a suitable vehicle that will get you out on the trail with this lot (you could be sorry).
Feel free to give me a call to talk or go and have a look at vehicles.

GLAD YOUR NOT ANOTHER POM OR AUSSIE :wink: :wink: ,

FITZY. ph 3387202 CHCH.

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:42 pm
by Jerry
:lol: cough :lol: make sure he gets a cruiser......the other brands are catching up and we need to keep the cruiser brigade on here strong :lol:

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:50 pm
by Hennes
Guys,

thats really a nice forum. Thanks for your help again.

@Jerry
The auction for the white cruiser ended on Monday morning.
I couldnt make to have a look at this car.

On Tuesday I had a look at the cruiser mentioned in my first posting. It is really well maintained, but there was little rubber on both wheel sets.
The deal was 12k without the mudtyres. Thats definetely to much.

@Smokey
Thanks for the welcome and the help. I will give a call soon.

Cheers
Markus

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:57 pm
by Jerry
Because its closed and unsold shouldn't stop you calling up and seeing if its for sale....it looks pretty tidy....go on call...you never know...