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I'm getting ready to go cross over on the Surf and after looking at pics of other conversions I thought I'd ask.
What arm (drivers or passengers) do people use for the new top arm? And are there any pros/cons to using either arm?
Some (most I think?) conversions are done using a flipped passengers side arm. While I have seen some with a flipped drivers arm, with the J arm cut off the back.

Pinky went with another pass. arm up the correct way



Conans is done with a flipped pass. arm


Matt4u and Hosehustler, what arm did you guys use? Its a bit harder to tell from your pics.
Also are the top of the arms mllled at all to take the spacer or just mill the bottom to remove the old king pin?
Hosehustler


Matt4u

Hope you guys don't mind me using your pics.
thanks

matt4u used a spacer and milled arm from j & j fabricators ....

My flip arm is a J arm with th j cut off, the kingpin milled off (you can leave it there), also ball joint taper has been swapped with the aid of a bush to accept the ball joint from the top.

Spend the money and buy Jafa's high steer arms. You won't do better than them.

rokhound wrote:Spend the money and buy Jafa's high steer arms. You won't do better than them.

I totally agree
Jafa's arms weren't available when I done mine, if they had of been I wouldn't have thought twice

Same!

If your doing a budget setup there is one issue that flipped arms create
When you torque your cone washers in they don't always finish up at the same height this isn't so bad in the ones that use nuts on a extra long stud like in hosehustlers at least the tierod arm is torqued right but this means the drag link arm (top one) is possibly not sitting evenly on all 4 nuts and with all the extra leverage of longer bolts ...
The other option of Nibs spacer block (matt4u) is potentially worse as there is no way to the insure the tierod arm is torqued properly and this effects your kingpin bearings but

I know there are alot of guys out there that run em... but this is steering one of the two areas that are no compromises (the other is brakes ) we are also following american's onto bigger and bigger tires this just places more and more stress on the studs or bolts

Not all is lost if you want a budget setup I've been pestered by enough people that I"ve come up with a answer its not as good an answer as hi-steer arms but for less than half
I machined the casting filler ridge off the top of the tie-rod arm and same on a drivers side arm, the drivers arm also gets new cone tapers cut into the bottom so cones can be pushed in from the top when flipped, I've also got a spacer block that is a bit bigger than nibs with holes drilled large enough to fit over nuts ontop of the tire-rod arm, with this in there it pushes between the arms not the cones.... allowing you to get the maximum clamping out of the system and makes certain your cone washers are doing the best they can

Oh and if your gona do hi-steer arms I'd recomend Jaffas arms your doing a surf yes , this means you won't have the clearance to run a extreme lift arm like mine or snake racing oh and snake arms cost to bloody much!!

Cheers Reece

Thanks for the replys guys.
Appreciate the input.
Reece, I have emailed you.

I am on a bit of a budget getting my truck back on the road all legal, so cheaper options are the go at the moment. Hi Steer may be an option further down the track. But I just want the sucker on the road again so I can use it.
Thanks again guys

hi, I am interested in the cross over steering for my toyota, I was wondering if there were any pctures of the steering box and where th pitman arm connects to the drag link. thanks vash

vash wrote:hi, I am interested in the cross over steering for my toyota, I was wondering if there were any pctures of the steering box and where th pitman arm connects to the drag link. thanks
vash

http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/modules ... _album.php

vash wrote:hi, I am interested in the cross over steering for my toyota, I was wondering if there were any pctures of the steering box and where th pitman arm connects to the drag link. thanks vash

Hosehustlers thread on his cross over steering
http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/modules ... 1055#51055

i have a arm to do the x over steering.

il put it up on trade me

hiluxDave wrote:i have a arm to do the x over steering.

il put it up on trade me

advertise it on here first, bound to be a few fellas keen on it.
And no selling fees either...

left hand steering arm




http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... =127979201

why not go to a local wreckers and pick up one for next to nothin?

that what h20 and i did...

just tryin to help.. its an expensive habit and the best of times this wheeling thing..

I agree.
Hiluxdave, sorry mate but I was expecting a different sort of arm than that.