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Ln130 Surf electrical problems

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:21 pm
by mud_lux
Hey guys,

i've brought a 1991 hilux surf ln130, It had the factory toyota radio in it, which was buggered.. I've changed it for a sony one, but I can't figure out how to make the electric aerial go up and down, and also when I put it all back together the light behind the heater sliders isn't going (i've checked the bulb and its not blown). i've checked the fuses on the drivers kick panel and there arn't any blown ones there.

Does anyone have any idea what might cause that, is there more fuses other than the engine bay ones?

Thanks for ya help :)

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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:24 pm
by BIG_BOY
areial on them is a yellow wire orange stripe conect +12V 2 that & your away

& do you have voltage at the bulb socket? normaly those bulbs have a shocking conection

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:28 pm
by mud_lux
stuck a multimeter on the socket and got nothing..

but couldn't find blown fuse.. all the other lights are working as far as I know, like ashtray etc etc..

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:30 pm
by BIG_BOY
in that case must be a broken wire some were just cut the wires going to it & tap them in to the cigie light or something close

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:32 pm
by mud_lux
yeah thought that would probabley be the easiest way

thanks mate :)

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:40 pm
by rangimotors
does the areial work? many are stuffed, as its been said put 12v directly onto the wire and see if it goes

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:53 pm
by mud_lux
rangimotors wrote:does the areial work? many are stuffed, as its been said put 12v directly onto the wire and see if it goes


It was working previously with the factory stereo :)

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:57 pm
by rangimotors
what sort of stereo did ya put it? should have a 12v output might even beable to tell you the colour if i no the brand.. often have a fuse on the 12v output wire

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:11 pm
by Mattman
You didn't accidentally use the lumination wire for a ground when you put your new stereo in did you?

Matt.

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:33 am
by mud_lux
Mattman wrote:You didn't accidentally use the lumination wire for a ground when you put your new stereo in did you?

Matt.


I didn't hook up any of the factory wires to ground, just plugged the aerial into the socket and the stereo earth to the chassis.

theres only one light thats not working i think, just the on behind the heater, unless the rear demister and hazzard light buttons are supposed to light up as well, coz they arn't.. in which case i might have done something wrong.

It was a pain, coz someone has done a real crappy job quickly putting the factory stereo back in it, and the wiring in the back of it is all buggered.

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:48 am
by mud_lux
rangimotors wrote:what sort of stereo did ya put it? should have a 12v output might even beable to tell you the colour if i no the brand.. often have a fuse on the 12v output wire


The stereo I put in is a Sony one, it still has the labels on the wires, so I know which ones are which on that side of it, just in the vehicle, where they are all different weird colors.. :)

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:04 am
by BIG_BOY
BIG_BOY wrote:areial on them is a yellow wire orange stripe conect +12V 2 that & your away

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:26 am
by mud_lux
BIG_BOY wrote:
BIG_BOY wrote:areial on them is a yellow wire orange stripe conect +12V 2 that & your away


yup saw that, thanks, that will be my mission for after work 2nite.. :)

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:47 pm
by mud_lux
had a play at lunch time.. the yellow wire didn't seem to do anything , but by accident i found a pink one that made it go up, but it didn't go down till i turned off the ignition (didn't go down after disconnecting wire), with toyota stereo it went down when stereo got switched off... would there be another wire to make it go down lol? this seems really complicated : :? :shock:

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:55 pm
by UBZ
I have an after market stereo in my surf and the antenna goes down when the stereo is turned of
There are two accessory wires in my surf that have to be connected to make the Ariel as well factory amplifiers for the rear speakers to work .If one of the wires is disconnected the antenna stays up until I turn off the ignition.


Let me know if you cant get it sorted and ill open my dash up (agian :roll: ) and find out the colors for you

Chris

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:18 am
by mud_lux
awesome dude :)

I've found a wiring diagram on the net somewhere that apparently is for a 1991 surf, so i'll see how i go with that. Did all surfs have rear speakers? are they really obvious through the rear grills? coz i can't see any in there.

Ta

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:48 am
by UBZ
My surf had cloth covers over the rear of the grills that stopped you looking in

Major mission to pull out all the rear panels to access the speakers behind :shock:

The factory speakers are 4" size and 2 ohm impedance which means you have to get rid of the whole rear speaker/amplifier setup to upgrade them, as direct replacements are not available :(

I just mounted speakers behind the grills in the right position but im not happy with the sound and plan to pull it all out again and make custom enclosures for my new rear speakers

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:47 am
by mud_lux
think im sorted now, thanks people....

found that the stereo i was using, while it had a wire for auto antenna it didn't make it work.. its old, so time for a new one i think :)

and just wired the heater light up to the illumination wire for the stereo as the stereo didn't have a place for that either. :)