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Help with the Pajero

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:50 pm
by ribbittuk
Hiya All,
Could anyone help me please? :?: I am looking to up the specs on my 7 seater Pajero. :? Bigger wheels, higher springs, snorkle etc and whatever else so that I can do what I love to the max. :twisted: Can someone help me please? tell me what I can do cos the places i have been to have said I cant do much :( I think its cos I'm female :smurfin: and they think I'm havin a laugh. Need the 7 seater cos of the family. If I cant do much then I will be lookin out for a 'toy'.

Many thanks.

ribbittuk

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:34 pm
by padero
hey.. i got a '93 swb pajero 3L V6 and i got bfg muddies on it 31 x 10.5 with a airflow snorkel you dont actualy have to much to them as there a very capable truck standard.. the main things are tyres and snorkel with decent recovery gear. Although i would like a lift on mine but not yet have got a few things to do to it 1st like put a winch on and playing with the satbaliser bars and sus them i mite look at getting a lift

what model pajero have you got ? and how old ?

Pajero

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:04 pm
by ribbittuk
Hiya,
Mines a 1991, lwb, 7 seater, 2.5diesel. Went to the waimak and was told "OH MY GOD YOU DIDNT GO DOWN THAT DID YOU?" :shock: but of course i did, :twisted: just the sons g/friend :elephant: was too scared to get out and take piccy, :puker: so now i got to go back and do it again!!! :twisted: thank god for a good co driver (my son) :salut:

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:34 pm
by matwelli
Hi, is yours a gen1 or gen 2 (gen2 I think is 92 onwards,gen 1 is the original, but not sure due to imports etc)

http://www.4x4wire.com has a good section on pajero's (montero's in the states), the suspension lift is relatively easy for 2 inches extra or so.

The front is torsion bar, its detailed on the site in technical dept, but get your son under the truck to wind the adjusters up 12 turns or so, the rear is as easy as swaping the rear springs (if yours is a gen 1) from a gen 2 SWB.

I plan on doing this in a month or so.

Good on ya for getting out there, need to convince my wife to do the same.

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:01 am
by SupraLux
I believe I have a listing for that model of Pajero for a 2" raised rear, and the front can be wound up a bit to match, or heavier duty '4WD' torsion bars can be fitted for real off-road pounding :)

Give me a shout on 021 637 600 if you'd like me to price something up for you - I may need to see the truck to confirm the setup first tho.

Good to see there are 'girls' out there getting muddy 8)

Steve

Pajero help

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 8:57 am
by ribbittuk
Hiya,
not sure what you mean by gen 1 or gen 2. :oops: mine is the face lift model. Also, since thrashin it around :twisted: on the weekend, the lights to do with 4wd on the dash have started to flash(the top 2).Why? Thanks Supralux will give you a call, I live in New Brighton so let me know when you are free. Am going off roading at Easter for the weekend so would like to try and get it sorted. :cheers:

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:12 am
by matwelli
Sorry about the gen1/gen2, got used to using that from the yank web sites, yours is a gen2 (second generation) so the spring swap would bo of no use.

Would be interested on some pricing on the rear springs supralux as well, as may be a better option for me as well (you can PM or email me), an extra 2 inches may have saved the running boards on the weekend :oops:

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:29 pm
by NJV6
HI, the flashing lights are most likely due to the build up of dirt or something around the plunger that puts the front diff into gear. Super select 4wd does need regular use to keep everything working properly and when I got mine i had flashing lights for a while, now with plenty of use it hardly flashes at all, if it does I chuck it back into 4wd then out again.

There can be other reasons such as faulty sender switches on the transfer box too.

With a couple of inch lift as SupraLux mentions bigger tyres are easy to fit, since you have a diesel and live near the waimak :twisted: then a snorkel is a good idea - jolly cheap insurance. By then you'll have quite a capable everyday vehicle.

Also Something to be weary of, factory tow hooks on many 4wd's are a bit doubtful, On Pajero's the rear one is a loop which is only welded on one side and the front one is a hook welded to the chassis, I wouldn't like to see a solid snatch of either of these, - results arn't worth thinking about.

cheers, Glen

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:09 am
by ribbittuk
:shock: So it looks like I got to get a 2inch lift on the rear, chuck my son under the front to crank it up :) , (found that website with it on thanks) put some muddies on it, a snorkel, decent tow hooks and maybe some heavy duty torsion bars. Best I get a manual aswell, library ones are out. Are you free this weekend Supralux to check my truck and then sort me out some prices? Will have a look around my self aswell,.
Thankyou to all you guys for giving me some advice :D It is great finding some people who don't mind helping and sharing their knowledge about offroaders expecially with a female. Hopefully will catch you all down the waimak or somewhere soon :twisted:

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 12:57 pm
by NJV6
Your list sounds good, After your son had done the torsion bar wind wind thing then get him to whip the bump stops of the top wishbone (suspension arm) and TRIM them back, not to much but back to about 10mm rather than30mm they are now. That will regain your wheel travel you lost by winding up the torsion bars. There are 4 top bump stops, 2 on each side.

Cheers.

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 2:13 pm
by paj94
Do not forget the weel alignment checked after you've alterd your suspention height. :wink:

Pajero

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:10 pm
by ribbittuk
Sorry, This is getting to be a pain,

Have decided to do my brakes this weekend, then a snorkle, then tyres and then the rear and front but I have been told if I lift the front doing the adjusters on the front torsion bar then I wont have the "unsprung weight" when there is a hole, if you understand??? Is it worth me puttin bigger springs on the front aswell as the rear to rectify this? I have also been told to get firestone 23 degrees 31x10.5 any input on these tyres? Also I can get tyres fitted for free is there anywhere over here to buy them "cheap" if you are gonna fit them yourselves? In the UK I knew all the places but am still learning over here. Thanks guys :smurfin:

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:19 pm
by padero
hey ribbittuk

I made a decent rear tow hook and shackel point up.. took my tow ball off and put it there out of the way, the only thing you need to look out for is that the door opening so you carnt put your hook pointing upwards you have to have it downwards or it will catch on the door when you openen it

i'll send you a pic if you like or jst pop round im in forest park, jst round the corner from you

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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 10:10 pm
by SupraLux
Hi ribbittuk - not sure if you called me or not as I have been hell-busy the last few days and haven't been in much at all, but if you would like some advice and some pricing then I should be available tomorrow - ring or TXT me on 021 637 600 and I can call you back if it suits you.

regards

Steve

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 10:10 pm
by SupraLux
Hi ribbittuk - not sure if you called me or not as I have been hell-busy the last few days and haven't been in much at all, but if you would like some advice and some pricing then I should be available tomorrow - ring or TXT me on 021 637 600 and I can call you back if it suits you.

regards

Steve

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:03 pm
by NJV6
Hey, its not a pain.

I think what you were told is to do with lifting the front adn the unsprung wieght - The front being independant has an upper and lower bump stop. When you lift it the top suspension arm gets closer to the bump stop and thus preventing it dropping 'in a hole' as you say. To get around this, as i have done is to whip the bump stops off and give em a trim to regain that travel. Not sure if this is what you meant but thats my thoughts.

Also the front doesn't have 'springs' as such, its a torsion bar, which is a long rod which the twisiting action of it works as a spring.

The Firestone 23 degree is not a bad tyre, possibly not as good all rounder as the likes of BFGoodrich Mud terrain but there is often a price to pay. 31 is a good size for ya but if you were going to lift it, perhaps do that first then see what'll fit without rubbing. They are too expensive to decide 3 months down the track they're the wrong size!

As for tow hooks, Mine is facing up, there is not much worse than a downwards facing hook! I just replaced the loop in the middle at the back with a hook, Here is a pic i found, not very clear thou.

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cheers

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:50 pm
by DieselBoy
My two cents on the ATX:
They are a good hard wareing tyre. IE very very hard wareing
A mate had them on his Surf and we found them a bit skatey in the wet, so we put them on his FJ40 cruiser and they were fine with the extra weight of the vehicle.
I think personaly on a lighter 4x4 they should be run lower than 40psi in the wet :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:
If they made them in a 33" i would have a set.

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:52 pm
by NJV6
Yep, i'll second that Pete, looking at 100 000km being achieveable, well I've known a few set to have done that, that sort of mileage can't be ignored!