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PETROL ENGINE PERFORMANCE
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:05 pm
by gomulletgo
PETROL ENGINE PERFORMANCE
IMHO it's time we had a thread with all the factory horsepower/torque figures for engines that may be suited to conversions.
Let's see the figures on supra engines, lexus v8s, nissan skyline engines, V6 commodores, high reving suzuki engines.........anything and everything that could be an option for an engine conversion.
It would also be good to see relative weights of the engines if possible (a figure I struggle to find)
I find answers.com quite good but often they miss the torque figures, making the horsepower figures kind of irrelevant.
So get posting people

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:42 am
by SupraLux
Factory Hilux figures, borrowed from various sources... note the E at or near the end indicates EFI - if it doesn't have an E, then assume carbed (petrol) or mechanical pump (diesels). G refers to wide angle twin-cam head (performance head) and F refers to narrow angle fuel-efficient head (never heard anyone refer to the lexus V8 and fuel efficient, but there ya go

)
Diesel Engines:
L
4 cyl 2188cc
50kW@4200
130Nm@2400
2L
4 cyl 2446cc
55kW@4000
156NM@2200
3L
4 Cyl 2799cc
60kW@4000
183NM@2400
5L-E
4cyl 2986cc
71kW@4000
200NM@2600
1KZ-TE
4 cyl 2982cc
97kW@3600 (108 if intercooled)
287NM@2000 (343 if intercooled)
Petrol Engines:
18R
4 cyl 1968cc
64kW@5000
140NM@3600
3Y (E version about 5kW and 5NM more)
4 cyl 1998cc
65kW@4600
157NM@3000
4Y (E version about 5kW and 5NM more)
4 cyl 2237cc
70kW@4700
177NM@3000
22R
4 cyl 2366cc
75kW@4800
185NM@2800
22R-E
4 cyl 2367cc
84kW@4800
192NM@3400
3VZ-E
V6 2962cc
105kW@4600
240NM@3400
3RZ-FE
4 cyl 2694cc
108kW@4800
235NM@4000
Thats a start for the basic Toy stuff... now to add some cool coversion figures to wet the appetite...
5M-GE (commonly referred to as the "Supra Swap")
inline 6 cyl 2759cc
108kW@ ???
210 NM @ ???
6M-GE
inline 6 cyl 2954cc
142kW@5600
260Nm@4400
7M-GE
inline 6 cyl 2954cc
152kW@6000
265NM@4800
1JZ-GE
inline 6 cyl 2492cc
147kW@6000
250NM@4000
2JZ-GE
inline 6 cyl 2954cc
160kW@5800
285NM@3800
1UZ-FE (Lexus V8)
V8 3960cc
191@???
353NM@???
Someone help fill in the blanks - I'm all googled out... I'll edit the replies into this one post for toyota stuff then when its compliled I'll copy it to the Toyota FAQ as well...
Steve
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:50 am
by rangimotors
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_KZ_engine
You kw for the 1kz seams a little low check out the link (not the best site as anyone can edit it but these are about the figures i have from everywhere else)
And with regards to the m series engines you'll probably find they came out in japanese spec eg 6m-geu which was slightly lower power about 127kw and 230 Nm, But it depends on what year and therefore what crank it has are lower power ones are meant to rev higher
I duno... Good info though saves me searching all the time
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:58 am
by SupraLux
Fixed - cheers, I did use Wikipedia for the JZ info... but got the 1KZ stuff from elsewhere...
Steve
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:06 am
by lilpigzuk
Suzuki
SJ410 F10A 970cc 45hp 73Nm
SJ413 G13A 1298cc 66hp 103Nm
Swift Gti G13B 1298cc 101hp 108Nm
CBF searching out Vitara stuff right now
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:11 am
by NJV6
Pajero
Gen 1
1983 - 1990
2.6 Jap (4G54) = 76Kw 192Nm
2.6 Oz (4G54) = 79Kw 196Nm
2.3TD (4D55T) = 62Kw 188Nm
3.0 V6 (6G72) = 105Kw 228Nm
2.5TD (4D56T) = 62Kw 201Nm
2.5TDI (4D56TI) = 70Kw 240Nm
Gen 2
1991 - 2000
2.6 Oz (4G54) = 79Kw 196Nm
3.0 V6 (6G72) = 109Kw 234Nm
2.5TDI (4D56TI) = 73Kw 240Nm
2.8D (4M40) = 71Kw 198Nm
2.8TDI (4M40) = 92Kw 292Nm
3.5 DOHC V6 (6G74) = 153Kw 300Nm
3.5 SOHC V6 (6G74) 140Kw 303Nm
Gen 3
2000 - 2006
2.8TDI (4M40) = 92Kw 292Nm
3.5 SOHC V6 (6G74) = 140Kw 303Nm
3.2 DID (4M41) = 121Kw 373Nm
3.8 SOHC V6 (6G75) = 150Kw 314Nm
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:16 am
by lilpigzuk
Some Vitara Info
Vitara JX 1999 1.6L G16A 16V 70.6KW@5600 132.4Nm@4000
Vitara JLX 1999 2.0L 20A 16V 97KW@6300 166Nm@3000
Grand Vitara 2000 2.0L J20A 16V 94KW@6000 172Nm@2900
Grand Vitara 2000 2.5L H25A 24V 106KW@6200 208Nm@3500
Jimny 2000 1.3L G13BB SOHC 16V 59KW@6000 104Nm@4500
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:21 am
by TJ
Jeep 4.0l inline 6 used in too many Jeeps to list (XJs, YJs, TJs and a few Grands):
4.0l I-6 Petrol
Peak Output 130kW @ 4600rpm
Peak Torque 296Nm @ 2700rpm
I'll add more Jeep engine stuff later.
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:42 pm
by xj
Sorry to take this off kilter a touch.... TJ, didnt the YJ use the 4.2litre carburetted donk?
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:37 pm
by wjw
whats this kw thing HP man I need it in HP

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:40 pm
by rangimotors
1kW = 1.34hp
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:02 pm
by TJ
xj wrote:Sorry to take this off kilter a touch.... TJ, didnt the YJ use the 4.2litre carburetted donk?
Only the early ones until 1991, when Jeep decided to make it injected. Block is the same on both so the 4.2l carb one became 4.0l injected. It gained a few kws and torque on the way. You can buy an injection kit and convert the old 4.2l into an injected motor relatively easily.
Spec for the old 4.2l 112 hp (84 kW) 4.2 L straight-6.
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:26 pm
by MAHINDRACJ4A
Engine codes.
Toyota uses the same option codes across most of its engines.
The first letter is the engine family
The numbers before the first letter is the version number of the engine
(i.e. version 1, version 2, ... , version 18 ...).
After the dash we have the options as follows:
B Dual standard carbs (only used on non-twin cam engines, obsolete code)
C Californian pollution control (also most of the world)
D Uses leaded fuel (Super) when base engine uses regular
E Electronic Fuel Injection
F Twin Cam (economy)
G Twin Cam (sports) with multiple sidedraft carbs (unless EFI)
H Unknown but never combined with -B or -C
i Single point fuel injection
II Unknown - possibly denotes L.A.S.R.E
J Unknown, possibly autochoke, possibly another anti-pollution control
L Transverse mounted engine (only used around 1985 when transverse was new)
LPG LPG fuel
M Phillipines market (details unknown)
P LPG fuel
R Low compression for regular (not super or premium) fuel.
S Swirl intake ports (only a few made in mid '80s)
S Direct injection & swirl pot pistons (starting from '97/98)
T Turbocharged
U Japanese pollution control (introduction of "U"nleaded?).
Engine uses TTC-C, TTC-L or TTC-V.
Z Supercharged
Gearboxes
K40 alloy 4 speed manual, usually behind K engines
K50 alloy 5 speed manual, usually behind K engines
T40 alloy 4 speed manual, usually behind T engines
T50 alloy 5 speed manual, usually behind T engines.
W40 steel 4 speed manual, usually behind R and M engines
W42 4 speed manual
W45 alloy 4 speed manual, behind Rand T engines
W50 steel 5 speed manual, usually behind R, M and early 1G engines
W51 steel 5 speed manual, usually behind later R and M engines
W52 5 speed manual
W55 alloy 5 speed manual, behind R and turbo T engines
W56 alloy 5 speed manual
W57 alloy 5 speed manual, behind G engines (Supra, Cressida)
W58 alloy 5 speed manual, behind M engines (Supra, Cressida)
L52 5 speed manual, usually behind K, R and L engines in 4WD vehicles
A1xxF 4WD auto
Compatibility
W series gearboxes have a separate bellhousing.
Different bellhousings are used to connect a W50 gearbox to an R or M series engine.
Different bellhousings are used to connect a W55 gearbox to an R or T series engine.
Alloy W5# gearboxes are interchangeable with each other.
Alloy and steel W5# gearboxes are not interchangeable with each other.
W50 bellhousings do not fit the W55 gearbox and vice versa.
W55 bellhousings do fit the W56 and W57 gearboxes and vice versa.
W58 bellhousings are only compatible with W58 gearboxes.
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:37 pm
by xj
wjw wrote:whats this kw thing HP man I need it in HP

I dont understand it either.
TJ, cheers for that, learnt something new!!
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:39 pm
by TJ
Inline 4.0l is used in:
1987-2001 Jeep Cherokee
1993-2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee
1987-1990 Jeep Wagoneer
1987-1992 Jeep Comanche
1991-2006 Jeep Wrangler
Other popular Jeep engines:
Hemi V8 5.7l used in following produces 340 hp (254 kW) and 390 ft lb (529 Nm)
2003-present Dodge Ram
2004-present Dodge Durango
2005-present Chrysler 300
2005-present Dodge Magnum
2006-present Dodge Charger
2005-present Jeep Grand Cherokee
2006-present Jeep Commander
2007-present Chrysler Aspen
Hemi V8 6.1l used in following produces 425 hp (317 kW) at 6,200 rpm and 420 ft lb (569 Nm) at 4,800 rpm
2005-present Chrysler 300 SRT-8
2005-present Dodge Magnum SRT-8
2006-present Dodge Charger SRT-8
2006-present Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT-8 (415 hp/310 kW)
2008 Dodge Challenger SRT-8
I wish I would be able to find a nice Hemi V8 6.1l for my upgrade when it happens.
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:39 pm
by MAHINDRACJ4A
xj wrote:wjw wrote:whats this kw thing HP man I need it in HP

I dont understand it either.
use this
http://www.mr2ownersclub.com/converter.htm
and 1kW = 1.34hp
Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:20 pm
by gomulletgo
Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:37 am
by gomulletgo
Holden commodore VN:
3.8 litre V6 125KW (168HP) 292NM@3600RPM
3.8 litre V6 Series II (EV6) 127KW (170HP) 293NM@3600RPM
5.0 litre V8 165KW (221HP) 385NM@3600RPM
Holden commodore VT ->:
5.7 litre V8 (LS1) 220KW (295HP) -> 250KW (335HP) through later models
Any help with torque figures for the LS1 would be great
Edit: updated figures (thanks steve

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Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:48 am
by SupraLux
gomulletgo wrote:Unfortunately I can't find any torque figures for these, which being engines renowned for torque is disappointing. Any help with torque figures for these engines would be great

http://www.marks4wd.com/misc_info/engin ... ldenPetrol
There ya go

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:47 am
by Bubba
Lot and lots of Cruiser info...............
Legend
FUEL
ID - Indirect Injection Diesel
DD - Direct Injection Diesel
EID - Electronically Indirect Injection Diesel
T - Turbo
EFIG - Gas Electronic Fuel Injection
DISP TORQUE COMP
MODEL (CC) CYL FUEL HP@RPM FT-LB@RPM VALVES (mm) (mm)
B (GAS) 3386 6 G 85@3600 159@???? 12 OHV 84x102
B 2977 4 ID 80@3600 141@2200 8 OHV 95x105
2B 3168 4 ID 93@3600? 159@2200 8 OHV 98x105
3B 3431 4 ID 90@3500 159@2200 8 OHV 102x105
13B-T 3431 4 TDD 120@3400 210@2000 8 OHV 102x105
14B 3661 4 DD 96@3400 177@2200 8 OHV 102x112
15B-FT 4104 4 TDD 155@3200 288@1800 16 OHV
F (-60) 3878 6 G 105@3200 189@2000 12 OHV 90x102
F (60-) 3878 6 G 125@3600 209@2000 12 OHV 90x102
2F 4230 6 G 135@3600 210@1800 12 OHV 94x102
3F 3955 6 G 155@4000 219@3000 12 OHV 94x95
3F-EFI 3955 6 EFIG 155@4200 220@2200 12 OHV 94x95
1FZ-??? 4477 6 G 138@???? Low compression engine for low grade fuel
1FZ-F 4477 6 G 190@4400 268@2800 24DOHC 100x95
1FZ-FE 4477 6 EFIG 212@4600 275@3000 24DOHC 100x95
H 3576 6 ID 90@3600 151@2200 12 OHV 88x98
H 3576 6 ID 95@3600 159@2200 12 OHV 88x98
2H 3980 6 ID 103@3500 177@2000 12 OHV 91x102
12H-T 3980 6 TDD 135@3500 231@2000 12 OHV 91x102
1HD-T 4163 6 TDD 165@3600 268@2000 12SOHC 94x100
1HD-FT 4163 6 TDD 168@3600 280@2500 24SOHC 94x100
1HZ 4163 6 ID 135@4000 187@2200 12SOHC 94x100
1KZ-T 2982 4 TID 125@3600 218@2000 8 96x103
1KZ-TE 2982 4 EID 130@3600 213@2000 8 96x103
2L 2446 4 ID 72@4000 115@2200 8SOHC 92x92
2L-T 2446 4 TID 86@4000 139@2400 8SOHC 92x92
2L-TII 2446 4 TID 90@4000 159@2400 8SOHC 92x92
1PZ 3469 5 ID 115@4000 170@2600 10SOHC 94x100
22R 2367 4 G 105@4800 136@2800 8SOHC 92x89
22R-E 2367 4 EFIG 114@4600 192@3400 8SOHC 92x89