BEST PRICE FOR LOKKA ???

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BEST PRICE FOR LOKKA ???

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Hi All ,,

I want to put in a rear lokka, who has the best prices

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minefield wrote:Hi All ,,

I want to put in a rear lokka, who has the best prices

Thanks


Graham


Not sure, I got mine couple of years ago from http://www.rocky-road.com but ive heard reports they arent so good now.

There are a few people around selling them now but I can't remember where or whome. Someone should really write a list, jpeg it and ill put it up so people know where to ring for prices.

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Firstly, I am pretty sure that Lokka don't do a rear for the safari, only a front. You would have to try lockrite or ARB. You would be better off putting it in the front, they are $700 off the shelf from 4wd Accessories in CHCH. I would then look for a slippery for the rear as Nissan slipperys are pretty good, better then toyaotas anyway and even toyota admit that. The front lokka will pull you OUT of alot of shit rather then pushing you through. This works real well for steep river exit points and steep ascents. I have a factory rear locker and I only turn it on when the front lokka needs a little assistance. In my experience and opinion a lokka up front is better then a rear locker/lokka.

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I intended to put a lokka in the rear and I was going to put a slippery in the front out of a terrano
What do do think, Better the other way round?

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minefield wrote:I intended to put a lokka in the rear and I was going to put a slippery in the front out of a terrano
What do do think, Better the other way round?

Graham


Auto lockers are not available for the rear of a safari. Best bang for buck is what al said. Lokka front, LSD rear.

Keep an eye out for a factory rear locker. They do pop up occasionally usually overpriced but i have seen a few cheapies.

Search for the auto vs selectable locker debate, each has its pros and cons, you may find you want to save up a bit more for a selectable one.
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Twin locked selectable is the best situation, but for budget reasons not cheap I will be going the front Auto locker and LSD in the back. I have for years thought the other way around but have seen a few 4wd's back out a harder exit than they can drive out with LSD in the front.

Also the drive line shock is reduced on the CV's in the front with a locker (tires traveling at the same speed). I would do as Al suggested your truck may have a LSD in the back now 80% odd of them do just the wrong oil's are in the diff making it work poorly. Jack up the ass end and spin one tire look at the other side and see if the other side spin's in the same direction if not bugger if yes then bonus ;) look at a diff oil change to LS90 next time.

As far as lockers the 2 major disadvantages with an auto unlocker is the inside wheel has to spin at the pinion speed (when in 4wd) meaning a wider turning circle, but this is only evident in 4wd when in 2wd hubs unlocked there is no disadvantage, the other thing is on Ice like a skifield etc in 4wd it will be a little more scary as all 4 wheels can turn and none grip, this is the same for a LSD front and rear but with thought and being carefull in these situations they are driveable just something you should know.

The advantage of a selectable is you choose when it is locked or not and on ice you can run an open diff and still be able to steer on ice without thinking as much, the turning circle is only affected when turning and the front diff locked, some selectables are fast acting and can be engaged on the fly at low speeds for the price I don't think a selectable is justifyable for me.

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I jacked the ass one side when I bought it and the wheel spin free, But the auto just being done up and new exhast system new oilcooler for the Auto with a 50mm lift and for 3500 too good to let go

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Steve_t647 wrote:...Also the drive line shock is reduced on the CV's in the front with a locker (tires traveling at the same speed)...


I heard the opposite is true. Think Wopass put Longfield CVs in his truck as with locker in the front placed too much strain on the CVs and busted them all the time.???

With an LSD in the front at least the clutch pack would give way before the CVs. Can get them tightened so almost as good as a locker (yes I know will never be as good as a locker).

Heaps of people recond locked diff in the front is better than locked rear (if had choice between one and the other) - the front option does seam to make sence.

I was going to go LSD front and auto locker rear but you guys have got me second guessing that now. Auto locker rear unpredictability got me worried but beraking CVs in front also not a pleasant thought.
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What about LSD's back and front how would that go

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MNC wrote:
Steve_t647 wrote:...Also the drive line shock is reduced on the CV's in the front with a locker (tires traveling at the same speed)...


I heard the opposite is true. Think Wopass put Longfield CVs in his truck as with locker in the front placed too much strain on the CVs and busted them all the time.???

With an LSD in the front at least the clutch pack would give way before the CVs. Can get them tightened so almost as good as a locker (yes I know will never be as good as a locker).

Heaps of people recond locked diff in the front is better than locked rear (if had choice between one and the other) - the front option does seam to make sence.

I was going to go LSD front and auto locker rear but you guys have got me second guessing that now. Auto locker rear unpredictability got me worried but beraking CVs in front also not a pleasant thought.


Lockers are 80% effective in the rear verses (obviously) 20% in the front.
Driveline is always weaker in the front due to steering issues. I got the figures from an Aussie 4wd mag years ago. We have had rigs running lockers up front and lsd back, and vice versa. But the fact is you are generally pushing a truck forward, not dragging it. And if it is being pushed, there is more traction and weight transferance at the back.
Unless you have bullet proof front ends, (and I have seen patrol ones break as well), put the lockers out back
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Post by albundy »

Don't listen to a word rok says as he drives a toyota :wink: I push my truck pretty hard, get air under the front and I am yet to do a CV in the safari(touch wood, I will probably break one in at lake Daniels in two weeks.) If you are running 35's I would say you would be more likely to break the cv's with the lokka up front. I used to get myself in serious shit with only the rear factory, I find now that the front pulls me through that shit.
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