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nissan pto winch question

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 5:20 pm
by muskie
i have never used the winch as i havnt had the vehicle long but i think there is problem.

i took the actutor cable off and freed it all up and lubed it, as it was seized. made sure the pto activation lever went in and out as it should and everything seems ok underneath and working. i can turn the drive shaft by hand and the drum rolls the cable in and out.

the problem i have is i cant free spool the cable off the drum, but the lock and unlock enguagement switch on the end is easy to move but drum is solid in lock or unlock position.

dont know how well i described that but basically i cant free spool the cable off.

do i have to start the truck or disenguage all gears etc.

unsure as i have never used a pto winch.

thanks

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:39 pm
by DaveM
Try pulling the drum by hand back and foward to unlock it.

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 8:53 pm
by GQTROL
Assuming you've stripped the winch and its all mint inside......If the 8 bolts which attach it to the winch-bar are tightened unevenly, it gets out of square and binds up.

Loosen off the bolts untill it will freespools Then do them up 1 at a time until you work out which bolt makes it bind up. Back that 1 off so it freespools again.

A bit of Locktite on the offending bolt stops it from working its way out.

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:00 pm
by muskie
i have took the locking end off the winch which just leaves the drum and gearbox, i assume the drum should spin freely on the shaft?? or not?? well it doesnt so i think the drum is seized onto the shaft so looks like it may be scrap.... :roll:

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:51 pm
by monstr
They will pull apart with a bit of effort if siezed,I have had to do a couple of mine ,Once apart its just a case of cleaning the crap of the main shaft ,regreasing it and putting it back together with new seals..

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:09 am
by muskie
tried to get drum off, put alot of time into it and penetrating fluid, it is seized solid so its now scrap, looking for another one, just need the winch itself, everything else seems good.

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:46 am
by monstr
hi Muskie,Do you want to sell it?,If you do drop me a PM ..Cheers

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:25 pm
by Jafa
Lol Monstr, you'll need to buy more CV's rather than a winch wont ya? :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 7:21 pm
by monstr
What are you trying to say?You saying im rough or something :roll: :roll: :roll:

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 7:50 pm
by muskie
sorry its in the scrap bin at work, can see if its there tuesday but i am sure the bins are emptied friday afternoons.

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 7:53 pm
by Terry
Hi, don't know if this is obvious, but mine won't freespool out unless I drive it out at least a tiny bit first - just blipping the clutch will do. I just assumed they're all like that. It might be worth trying to drive yours out a bit and see if that helps. If they're not meant to need a "drive" to disengage the free-wheel hub thingy, does anyone know what might be wrong with mine?
cheers,
Terry

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:06 pm
by DaveM
muskie wrote:sorry its in the scrap bin at work, can see if its there tuesday but i am sure the bins are emptied friday afternoons.


Bugger, there are people that would still have paid $100 for it as parts

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 8:44 am
by wobblenz
I to have a pto winch and had the same problem. when you have the winch unlocked you need to give the drum a wibble by hand. You will hear a click and then away you go. :)

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 8:51 am
by NJV6
wobblenz wrote:I to have a pto winch and had the same problem. when you have the winch unlocked you need to give the drum a wibble by hand. You will hear a click and then away you go. :)


It's not a problem - its perfectly normal.

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 8:54 am
by wobblenz
Yea just took me awhile to work it out. :lol:

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 7:43 pm
by muskie
no its a bit more serious than that, believe me i tried all the usual, the shaft was just complete rust, and the drum wouldnt come off the shaft, i got it to move 10mm and that was it

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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:48 pm
by coxsy
my bloody winch will not free spool now, more fn work

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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:06 pm
by coxsy
got the whole winch off the drum has to much movement on the shaft thats why its binding , any ideas how to get the thing apart took the 6 cap screws out put the cap refuses to come off

Re: pto winch

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:17 am
by GQTROL
coxsy wrote:got the whole winch off the drum has to much movement on the shaft thats why its binding , any ideas how to get the thing apart took the 6 cap screws out put the cap refuses to come off


Give the end cap a tap with rubbe mallet to rotate it on the housing a little. Use two flat screwdrivers, one from each side to lift the cap off the housing. The suction of the oil will want to hold it on, but with some encouragement, it will come off.

When reassembling it, cut yourself a new paper gasket, as you will probably damage the original one getting the cap off.

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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:43 pm
by coxsy
thanks will give it a go , if all else fails my club captain bernie of jk racing has rebuilt a few

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:51 pm
by muskie
i retrieved mine from the scrap bin at work. i have stuck it on trade me, $1 res as i dont know what its worth, still anything will go towards a new electric one..collect only. i am near Hamilton

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 8:23 pm
by monstr
Hay Muskie,Why did you withdraw the winch of Trademe,I was leading the bidding and would of gone a lot higher...

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 8:48 am
by muskie
monstr wrote:Hay Muskie,Why did you withdraw the winch of Trademe,I was leading the bidding and would of gone a lot higher...


yep really sorry about that got told off by trade me for putting my contact details in, and also realised that the driveshaft which goes into the gearbox end had been cut off so in all honesty it was only the housing which was ok. didnt want to risk selling something incorrectly described. thats why it came in the back of my truck rather than fitted i assume.

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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 8:52 am
by coxsy
Stripped mine satarday cleaned ,inspected it, greased the whole assy rebuilt cool now ,yaha

Re: pto winch

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:05 am
by muskie
coxsy wrote:Stripped mine satarday cleaned ,inspected it, greased the whole assy rebuilt cool now ,yaha


nice one, lucky you mate,

the splinned end on mine was twisted to hell. it was just scrap really. i feel guilty about selling stuff to people if its not right as i hate being stung myself...