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80 series front diff
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:26 pm
by red-devil
has anyone heard if this diff is easy to break the crown wheel in reverse.
jono
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:28 pm
by PR
You broke the crown wheel

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:32 pm
by red-devil
it sounds like it, and ricc thinks so too
There goes some $$$$
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:34 pm
by PR
red-devil wrote:it sounds like it, and ricc thinks so too
There goes some $$$$
Faaaarrrrkkkkk

Well you should have done what I said and brought a Nissan

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:40 pm
by red-devil
NEVER
toyota all the way
next time ill turn the truck around. well no NEXT time youll look at were your about to drop off

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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:15 pm
by NJV6
HI, yes they are a high pinion diff with reverse cut gears and by design are inheritly(sp) weak in Reverse.
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:44 pm
by DieselBoy
"Apparently" from my research on ih8mud.com, the front diffs are fine, you just don't do recoveries in reverse. Its bad practise anyway, but something to keep in mind.
The guys in the states run bigger engines and even bigger tyres with no problems, provided you don't get aggressive trying to recover someone using your front tow hooks
Its not the diff thats weak really, hell, its exactly the same diff thats fitted with the factory lekky lokker. Like NJV6 said, its inherent due to design

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:50 pm
by NJV6
Yep, very strong in forwards. 30% stronger by design I think over a normal one......
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:53 pm
by NJV6
O and red devil - Prado ones are the same as far as i know - may be cheaper than an 80.
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:12 am
by red-devil
cheers boys i just read the same info from i8mud too last night
i have the factory locker in my truck so will the prado one still fit. just thinking of the dollar.
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:22 am
by red-devil
Must place a note in the truck "Dont tow PR if he is stuck in front of me", "USE the winch Jono"
Cheaper option
heheh
arrrr PR ill still get you out even if i have to turn the whale around.
jono
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:39 am
by PR
Cool

it will happen again

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:05 am
by oldblue
Just check the ratios
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:07 pm
by Shane
They are quite a strong diff,being a locker one all 4 bearings are different also(very large bearings I might add $$$

)
what were you doing when it broke?
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:10 pm
by wopass
your 80's cruiser will be 4.1:1 ratio,i think all the prado ones are 4.3:1 ? so you will be looking for a cruiser one or parts there of. i have a cruiser high pinion in my spares pile but would cost you a stack of cash to have that...and you only really need the parts to pix yours..not the whole thing ?
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:41 am
by red-devil
Cheers wopass i was thinking of taking out the diff head and getting a new crown wheel fitted by the diff shop. as your right i dont need the whole thing and i not going to be going out in the hard stuff to brake it again.
shane i was backing up on a rope with PR stuck down a bank (Huge Hole) to check i was clear of a tree behind me and it went click click ( no bang).
i winched PR back to all four.
Hopping to get the head out monday.
Jono
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:31 am
by Sadam_Husain
red-devil wrote: i was thinking of taking out the diff head and getting a new crown wheel fitted by the diff shop.
You meant replaceing the Crown wheel and pinion as a matched pair didnt you

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 4:01 pm
by red-devil
Yes so sorry i missed that out

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:07 am
by red-devil
well after having funwith a ball joint

i finelly got the diff head out.
had a little look to see if the crown wheel had gone.
Well o shit there is a section missing.
so its off to find a new diff head this weekend
Jono
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:00 am
by SMOKEY
Jono, there's a lesson to be learnt here, and I'm not sure the right person has learnt it yet. If my memory serves me correctly your not the first person to damage a diff trying to recover PR.
WHY DO LIFE'S LESSONS HURT THE POCKET ??
FITZY.
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:49 am
by PR
Yea Fitzy

that wasnt quite a diff but a shared pinion

But it was a toyota aswell

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 6:55 am
by red-devil
o bugger

nar when you look hard at the break you can see there are cracks that have eed there for a while. i was going to go anyway. im just please it went with me driving not the wife as she would have driven home on it and done a little more damage.
as for PR his time will come and all those toyotas ill be there to tow him home

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:25 am
by PR
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 9:12 pm
by red-devil
arr your a cheeky bugger,
but in all fairnes if the lada is that far up the same trark as you then i would take that tow too.
jono
Re: 80 series front diff
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:13 pm
by red-devil
well the diff is in the shop at the mo getting fixxed up
ouch there goes my birthday pressy.
so the truck should be running this weekend
jono