35'' tyres on a gen2 pajero?

LOWDWN · Post by **LOWDWN** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:32 pm

i have asked in tyres section but no replies, i am wanting to do this right the first time and go as big as possible, has any one seen or have 35'' tyres fitted to a 4 door 91 pajero?

it will be lifted at the same time

if so pics or loop holes

thanks, sam

4.75 diff

GotFlex · Post by **GotFlex** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 6:33 pm

yea id be interested too!! i got a swb diesel jtop one though

WACKO · Post by **WACKO** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 6:42 pm

what engine are you running? the 3.5 petrol and 2.8 diesel have a bodylift over the smaller engined pajs. on my 3ltr i have had 35s, with a 50mm bodylift and about 50 spring lift. but it also needed the front bumper corners taken off and a bit of massaging of the back of the wheel arch to fit them on the front. if you have either the 3.5 or 2.8 you may just need the suspension lift. but it can be done...

but they are both short wheel bases... cant be much differant for long wheel bases.

Sam

LOWDWN · Post by **LOWDWN** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:04 pm

WACKO wrote:what engine are you running? the 3.5 petrol and 2.8 diesel have a bodylift over the smaller engined pajs. on my 3ltr i have had 35s, with a 50mm bodylift and about 50 spring lift. but it also needed the front bumper corners taken off and a bit of massaging of the back of the wheel arch to fit them on the front. if you have either the 3.5 or 2.8 you may just need the suspension lift. but it can be done...

but they are both short wheel bases... cant be much differant for long wheel bases.

Sam

thats a sight to be seen, sounds good to me, yea its a 3l petrol but will body lift if i have too

thaks heaps

WACKO · Post by **WACKO** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:14 pm

if you want to go all hard out it may end up like this one from oz...

all SASd and stuff.

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/vi ... er+project is the write up on the original truck.

NJV6 · Post by **NJV6** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:34 am

When you do, budget $1500 for low gears. 35's on std gearing I have read time and time again is terrible. It is bad enough on 33's.

doddzee · Post by **doddzee** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:44 am

NJ is right, your gearing will be up shit creek. I used to own the blue paj pictured above. I tried the 35's once (34" measured) and took them off fairly quick after i tried to reverse down a hill, not fun!!!

Wacko put 5.29 gears in his to fix this problem, he has a 5.29 front diff which isnt much use to him anymore which he may be keen to sell.

LOWDWN · Post by **LOWDWN** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:31 pm

yea tru, thanks for the heads up, 33'' mite be the limit

WACKO · Post by **WACKO** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:24 pm

oh yeah... i forgot to mention that the 3ltr, (too me anyway) is a little underpowered to run 35s effectivly. even with my 5.29 diffs i still had a little trobule spinning them. i could spin them, but it just needed a little more grunt for just a bit more of a kick in the pants. just to get them spinning fast enough to clear the tyres.

you will be more than happy with 33s probly. i was for about 2 years... but started trying to follow trucks running 37s so decided i needed some artifical enhancments... :lol:

cheers, Sam

GotFlex · Post by **GotFlex** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:25 pm

how will 33s be on my 2.5 diesel jtop, 5.2 diff i think :lol:

WACKO · Post by **WACKO** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:33 pm

i had my 33s on my parts truck before i stripd it but i found it gutless. i was used to my 3ltr petrol tho. you cant do much more than try them. to check your diff ratio, look at your chassis plate. by transaxle it will have a cpl of nums. think the first is your box and the 2nd is your diffs. it will either have 4875 or 5285 (i think). 4875=4.875 and 5285=5.285. easy.
there is another ratio but i cant remember what it is.

Sam

sodhimanawa · Post by **sodhimanawa** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:43 am

So, what do u reckon ....no modifications on a J top ...whats the biggest tyre size one can go for ?

doddzee · Post by **doddzee** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:00 am

sodhimanawa wrote:So, what do u reckon ....no modifications on a J top ...whats the biggest tyre size one can go for ?

If its a 2.5 or a 3.0 a large 31" or a undersized 32"

If its a 2.8 or a 3.5 33's will fit.

sodhimanawa · Post by **sodhimanawa** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:04 pm

I ve got a J Top, Diesel... I ve planned to put higher tyres on the 18 inch rims ... they are 3 inches taller than the super diggers ... they did not fit ... I ve been recommended a body lift .... I picked up one from trademe ...so yet to put the kit in ! Any suggestions ?

WACKO · Post by **WACKO** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:44 pm

on the 18s? can i ask what your reasoning is? the factory 18s are only 6"wide and tyres will be rediculisly expensive. but if thats the way your going to go... if they are skinny you may get away with it as it was the scrub radius that was the biggest problem on mine.

but idd seriously look at 15s or 16s if i were you. they will be a much cheaper and more effective option in my opinion.

Sam.

sodhimanawa · Post by **sodhimanawa** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:34 am

Me lucky so far ... picked up 7.50 / 18 snow tyres ....14 ply ...they r as good as new .... off an import truck ...Hino I guess ...wonderin what will be the outcome !!

...lemme know wat do u guys think !!

sodhimanawa · Post by **sodhimanawa** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:39 am

I dunno maybe I m wrong ...I got the tyres pretty cheap .... I reckon ...bigger the circumference bigger the imprint thus ...more friction ...more grip ...any ideas ?

WACKO · Post by **WACKO** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:07 pm

in the mud you want an open tread pattern. not a closed up snow tyre pattern. if you already have them give them a go, but i still think you are better off going for smaller rims. what sort of 4wding do you do? mud, rivers, gravel roads..?

Sam

sodhimanawa · Post by **sodhimanawa** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:14 am

Agree with u outrightly ... My plan on the tread is to knife the tyres to get a good tread. I m new to the field ... I ve done part of the wires track ...done a couple of tracks up north ... I m not a hard yakka fella ....but slowly graduating...Got bit of tractor driving skills on all sorts of terrain....yet to get me a winch. I had a chit chat with a 4x4 geek in Hamilton & told him about the way I was goin about the tyres ...he said its worth a go .

I quote Andy Cockroft -

A big tyre will roll over a lump, while a skinny requires less effort to go thru mud so ... double the tyre width, one doubles the drag without doubling the grip.

Height is more important than width : the taller the tyre the better.

He also says For true off road use, the tall non-directional radial with a low gross-to-net ratio is fast becoming the tyre of choice.

I reckon big circumference is better than more width. I think taller the tyre ...more the clearence. At the end of the day we r lookin for grip.

Cheers!

sodhimanawa · Post by **sodhimanawa** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:44 am

Now ! I need some real help ! I ve put the 35inch tyres... but on a bump the tyre on the passenger side rubs to the arch in the front fender. But only on the passenger side. What do u reckon ? crank up the torsion bars? whats the best ...easy... possible way ... will it cause any damage ....I m confused as a baby in a topless bar !!!! HELP ! :shock:

Cheers!

doddzee · Post by **doddzee** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:17 am

sodhimanawa wrote:Now ! I need some real help ! I ve put the 35inch tyres... but on a bump the tyre on the passenger side rubs to the arch in the front fender. But only on the passenger side. What do u reckon ? crank up the torsion bars? whats the best ...easy... possible way ... will it cause any damage ....I m confused as a baby in a topless bar !!!! HELP !

Cheers!

What lift, body or suspension have you done so far?

mudlva · Post by **mudlva** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:15 pm

hi there any thought on how long your c.vs will last with the torson bars wound up high increasing driveshaft angles and coupled up with heaps more traction from the bigger tires.recomend finding a good spare parts wreckers.
best of luck thou and am keen to hear of how successful if is
cheers mudlva

sodhimanawa · Post by **sodhimanawa** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:37 pm

I ve had a bodylift done 50mm ... the Pajero has a company fitted suspension, button operated lift, I look forward to cranking the torsion bars to correct the sag & the front passenger tyre(35 inch) rub. I wonder whats the experience with the torsion bars cranking !!

mudlva · Post by **mudlva** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:14 pm

torsion bars cranking ??

do you mean torsion bars cracking/breaking??

dont know much about ifs stuff but if you are winding up the torsion bars to give tire clearance mite be worthwile building a spacer for your bump stops as well. this will help limit the amount of torsion bar twist and hopefully extend the life of the bar.

a way of doing this will require two trolley jacks and large peices of wood.
jack up a tire on oppsite corners (as like a cross axle) keep on jacking untill you have booth wheels on the other corners just about coming off the ground. if you run out of jacking height use blocks of wood to support tire, then put jack on to another peice of large wood and continue jackiing the vechile. the jack will have to be under the actual suspension cross member at the front and the axle on the rear.

when you have the wheels off the ground and assuming that the front wheel is not rubbing the guard measure the differance between the bump stop and the cross member add 10 to 15 mm to allow for rubber compression and this should be the ammount that will be required to extend the bump stops by

REMEMBER TO BE SAFE WHILST DOING THIS that while the vechile is supported by the jacks, the vechile could easily slip oR move etc cousing a most UNPLEASENT CRUSHING FEELING. place axle stands or similar under the chassis so if something does happen at least it cant go all the way down

cheers and happy modifing

mudlva

NJV6 · Post by **NJV6** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:29 pm

You have 7.50 x18's on a Pajero off a Hino truck? Have you measuered to see what size they are...... I would suggest a truck tyre would have very limited tread, be extremly hard riding, terrible gearing and really don't see the point.

As shown from All the previous posts by people who have fitted 35's to Pajeros is they don't fit without relieving the front guards (grinder/gas/FBH), a 2 inch body lift and a torsion bar/spring lift.

Get a set of 285/75/16 or 33x12.5x15 if you don't mind grinding your calipers to fit 15 inch rims and go play. You will get enough selling your 18 inch wheels to low rider boy racers to nearly fund a set of 15's + tyres.

Re lifting it - put front of vehicle on jack stands, crawl underneath to the rear of the torsions - undo lock nut then wind them up. COunt the turns so you can do both the same. You will hardly get them any higher than the factory High setting with your lift. Wacko has the same and may be able to help. To go higher you'll need to cut the upper bump stop in half and do the ball joint flip. TRY HERE. And here for more.

Pajero CV's are pretty good and should be ok on your big road tyres providing there is no play in the front hub where they go through and you do a Ball joint flip once you have it permanently lifted.

sodhimanawa · Post by **sodhimanawa** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:20 pm

WICKED ! I ll get goin !! THANKS A TON GUYS !!

sodhimanawa · Post by **sodhimanawa** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:28 pm

Just bought a pair of MUD CHAINS !! hope they work well .... I ve never used a pair so far !!

NJV6 · Post by **NJV6** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:02 pm

So now you have chains and 35 inch truck tyres on a Pajero.

Which already rub.
:roll:

Smurf · Post by **Smurf** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:06 pm

NJV6 wrote:So now you have chains and 35 inch truck tyres on a Pajero.

Which already rub.

No no, .... the chains will make room for the 35s to fit... won't they???

WACKO · Post by **WACKO** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:19 pm

all i have to add to what njv6 said is if you wind up the torsions then press the lift button it may hydralicly lift it to the bumpstops. you will have no down travel. i got 35s to fit but i was on bumpstops. your better off selling the 18s to boyricers and getting 33s on 15s...

Smurf wrote:
NJV6 wrote:So now you have chains and 35 inch truck tyres on a Pajero.

Which already rub.

No no, .... the chains will make room for the 35s to fit... won't they???

Sam

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