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My landrover toy project
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:26 pm
by 86-surf
To day i finaly got arround to working on the beast,
I didn't have any money to to any thing on the motor because i spent my last $100 on xmas prezzies yesterday on the fricken family and relitives:( (thinking to my self why the hell did i have to have such a big family) so couldn't get nothing for the engine to get it going so I had to tow it.
Any way to day I jacked it up put jack stands under it to get the diff off,
Man was it a mission, All the bolts were all rusty and tight as hell and everything was just crap! .All the nuts were the rong size for the tools i had stupid old land rovers, I couldnt undo the U bolts so I had to cut em off with the grinder ,They were pinging back and flinging all over the place wen i cut em Not somthing i want to do again rusty bastards,
So right now im in the middle of doing a SOA , Instead of using U bolts im just gonna weld it there until i get some more U bolts, Haven't finished yet because mum cam and picked me up to baby sit for her so at 3:00 im going back down to finish off and put it away so no bastards pinch the wheels, but i dout they could pinch the wheels any way,
Pictures and more info will follow soon
Oh yes be warnned my spelling is bad

Re: My landrover toy project
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:39 pm
by lilpigzuk
86-surf wrote:, Instead of using U bolts im just gonna weld it there until i get some more U bolts,
WTF??!!
Re: My landrover toy project
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:40 pm
by 86-surf
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I had to cut the U bolts to get the diff out so im going to weld it so i can put the rover away,. did you get that?
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:40 pm
by Smurf
You are going to weld what? the springs to the diff??
NO NO NO
you cannot weld spring steel like that.
You MUST use u bolts.
Welding makes the steel go brittle and the spring will snap.
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:44 pm
by 86-surf
Smurf wrote:You are going to weld what? the springs to the diff??
NO NO NO
you cannot weld spring steel like that.
You MUST use u bolts.
Welding makes the steel go brittle and the spring will snap.
Oh ahk ill just make my ohn U bolts then, my bad
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:48 pm
by turoa
need pics
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:13 pm
by 86-surf
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:21 pm
by DJ
need pics
please add tears here............... (turoa).....

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Re: My landrover toy project
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:42 pm
by safangari
86-surf wrote:So right now im in the middle of doing a SOA , Instead of using U bolts im just gonna weld it there until i get some more U bolts
Gold.
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:11 pm
by SMOKEY
Jase, Jase, Jase what can I say

I want to say to you to Piss off and come back when you grow up and then I laugh and remember we where all young once with more enthusiasm than ideas

. What ever you do don't EVER DELETE any of your posts, when you become NZ 4x4 trials champion you will be able to look back over these posts and say------------ F*ck I said that ---- no way

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But please Jase keep it to ONE PROJECT at a time.
To quote an old saying of my Mums ( shes 85 and still got a wicked sense of humour ).
YOUNG ONES WANT TO GO OUT AND SET THE WORLD ON FIRE, WHEN THEY CAN'T EVEN AFFORD THE MATCHES,
FITZY.
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:12 pm
by timotheus
Dont worry about safagari, he stirs shit and doesnt know his arse from his elbow.
Weld what you want where you want, its your toy, do what you want.
Plus he is a post whore, 3 today.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:31 pm
by 86-surf
Ide rather not go away and come back thanks, i qutie like it here in the ore world where if you post to much or do to many projects wen uve got nothing els to do but hope on ore or msn or bebo or what ever!, If you ant got nothing nice to say don't say it!, And keep it of my post.
Any way here are the pics,
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Didn't have enouth time to finish of the other home made U bolt thiny so i just said screw it and tide them down it worked but now i have a bigger problem!.
The angle of the drive shaft is to much so im going to make some trangle looking thingy to straten it a bit.
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:37 pm
by Jerry
Turoa is probably sitting on a pile of LR parts

has he got any ubolts spare?
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:39 pm
by turoa
bla
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:40 pm
by lilpigzuk
86-surf wrote:Ide rather not go away and come back thanks, i qutie like it here in the ore world where if you post to much or do to many projects wen uve got nothing els to do but hope on ore or msn or bebo or what ever!, If you ant got nothing nice to say don't say it!, And keep it of my post.
Any way here are the pics,
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Didn't have enouth time to finish of the other home made U bolt thiny so i just said screw it and tide them down it worked but now i have a bigger problem!.
The angle of the drive shaft is to much so im going to make some trangle looking thingy to straten it a bit.
OMFG, you are a legend
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:41 pm
by lilpigzuk
I have saved those photos incase

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:44 pm
by Jerry
No worse that using plywood on a zuk for body lift blocks and other important bits

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:48 pm
by timotheus
Jerry wrote:No worse that using plywood on a zuk for body lift blocks and other important bits

I contest that.
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:49 pm
by safangari
Harrumph.
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:51 pm
by Jerry
Rex is just annoyed he didn't think of it first ......
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:53 pm
by niblik
leave the springs set up like that.. its better cos when ya articulate up the geometric angles and forces applied on the opposing springs begin to force the artificial artic bringing it all into balance when either on an incline or not... also the approach angles and the 'over the bonnet' view is better so you can have more accurate wheel placement and line taking abilities...
hill climbs in this particular set up enable a more efficient system in which power is put to ground...
and the driveshafts are on an angle? yeah? prrfffttt.. dont worry about it, as long as the spline is still making contact its all good..
more pics?
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:56 pm
by lilpigzuk
niblik wrote:
leave the springs set up like that.. its better cos when ya articulate up the geometric angles and forces applied on the opposing springs begin to force the artificial artic bringing it all into balance when either on an incline or not... also the approach angles and the 'over the bonnet' view is better so you can have more accurate wheel placement and line taking abilities...
hill climbs in this particular set up enable a more efficient system in which power is put to ground...
and the driveshafts are on an angle? yeah? prrfffttt.. dont worry about it, as long as the spline is still making contact its all good..
more pics?
Nicely put nibs, rock crawlers spend hours calculating anti-squat with 4 and 5 link rear ends but they dont know this simple set up produces the same results. Just make sure you always go uphill

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:59 pm
by timotheus
Can I use this for a tee-shirt?
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:36 pm
by SMOKEY
Jase, go back a page and read all my post, I was being nice and trying to give you a bit of my wisdom.
When Tu's and Mr O started on ORE they got plenty of stick the same as we are giving you, they have both stood the test of time and have become accepted as contributing members of our ORE community, so hang in there and remember ------,
THE ARSE YOU KICK TO DAY MAY BE THE ONE YOU HAVE TO LICK TOMORROW,
FITZY.
PS, Jase I can't spell but I have a Google tool bar that has an ABC check that will give corrections even inside posts

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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:44 pm
by Sadam_Husain
Thats some pretty good knot tying there Jase but just make sure you've got the weight of truck well supported before you go crawling under it like that

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:48 pm
by xj
where can i get some of that blue rope, i got a steering knuckle giving some grief. I want to strip it apart at home, but if its all bent i may not be able ot get it together again, so ill need to get it to the workshop somehow........
Im only joking......
On a serious note though, Tu's would it not be easier to make longer leaf spring brackets, be rid of the shackles, invert the spring, and re mount it? therefore the drive-to-differential co-efficient of rotation will be sychronising with the obtuse mesh of the transfer. you speak of the flex gain/loss Tu's, surely simply bolting in a safari beam axle, increasing the trackwidth, will compensate for the change in angle AND allow a more stable centre of gravity. what was required as say 500mm flex with the original, with the saffa set up will now only need 374.5mm of flex to gain the same result.
Or will it... ill need to do some more homework on this.
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:52 pm
by turoa
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:56 pm
by xj
Can ya get a chev in there?
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:03 pm
by niblik
xj no function beer well without?
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:03 pm
by lilpigzuk
xj wrote:where can i get some of that blue rope, i got a steering knuckle giving some grief. I want to strip it apart at home, but if its all bent i may not be able ot get it together again, so ill need to get it to the workshop somehow........
Im only joking......
On a serious note though, Tu's would it not be easier to make longer leaf spring brackets, be rid of the shackles, invert the spring, and re mount it? therefore the drive-to-differential co-efficient of rotation will be sychronising with the obtuse mesh of the transfer. you speak of the flex gain/loss Tu's, surely simply bolting in a safari beam axle, increasing the trackwidth, will compensate for the change in angle AND allow a more stable centre of gravity. what was required as say 500mm flex with the original, with the saffa set up will now only need 374.5mm of flex to gain the same result.
Or will it... ill need to do some more homework on this.
co-efficients all wrong bro, will go find abbacus, let you know the results....