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is there a diagram on here showing how to wire a set of spots in with a relay, and for a warrent do they have to be wired into main lighting circuit or on a switch seperatly. thanks

there is already some wiring in but looks really bodgy and i dont trust it so want to start again.

Hi relays are easy - most hella or bosch will have a little picture on the side. If you get heavy duty one over 25A which I recommend for big f**k off spotties it has two big spades for the power and load (lights) and two smaller ones for the switching side. Run a ignition switched feed - i.e it is live when the key is on to a dash switch and from there to the relay. Ground the other side (small spade). Don't connect the heavys yet. Put the key on and operate the switch - you will hear and feel the relay "click". Put battery positive tho' a nice big fuse to the large spade and run to the lights with the other.

Easy as.....

As far a warrents go it's a bit of a gray area... You might be required to use a main beam feed in place of the ignition one so the spotties only come on with high beam. Where to find this can be tricky as some vehicles use earth switches (toyotas do for sure).

The big loom under the steering shrouds is usually a good bet or fuse box.

Any q's just ask!!!

this is the factory spot light switch

and this s the factory loom

coxsy wrote:this is the factory spot light switch

and this s the factory loom

excellent , i thought that was for rear fogs, didnt even try it. put a new relay in when i found it (dangling around and rotted through completely) i had to tidy up the wiring but it all works perfectly, thanks for that mate. it takes someone to point out the obvious sometimes aye


oh yeah my live feed going to the relay is straight from the + drivers side battery, is that factory or not?? i thought it would need to be 24v as its a 24v relay??

muddymatt wrote:Hi relays are easy - most hella or bosch will have a little picture on the side. If you get heavy duty one over 25A which I recommend for big f**k off spotties it has two big spades for the power and load (lights) and two smaller ones for the switching side. Run a ignition switched feed - i.e it is live when the key is on to a dash switch and from there to the relay. Ground the other side (small spade). Don't connect the heavys yet. Put the key on and operate the switch - you will hear and feel the relay "click". Put battery positive tho' a nice big fuse to the large spade and run to the lights with the other.

Easy as.....

As far a warrents go it's a bit of a gray area... You might be required to use a main beam feed in place of the ignition one so the spotties only come on with high beam. Where to find this can be tricky as some vehicles use earth switches (toyotas do for sure).

The big loom under the steering shrouds is usually a good bet or fuse box.

Any q's just ask!!!

thanks for that mate, what size bulbs would i be running to warrent using 25amp relay??

correct the feed does come off the driversside +

rr a/c lights warn is my spot light relay

muskie wrote:

muddymatt wrote:Hi relays are easy - most hella or bosch will have a little picture on the side. If you get heavy duty one over 25A which I recommend for big f**k off spotties it has two big spades for the power and load (lights) and two smaller ones for the switching side. Run a ignition switched feed - i.e it is live when the key is on to a dash switch and from there to the relay. Ground the other side (small spade). Don't connect the heavys yet. Put the key on and operate the switch - you will hear and feel the relay "click". Put battery positive tho' a nice big fuse to the large spade and run to the lights with the other.

Easy as.....

As far a warrents go it's a bit of a gray area... You might be required to use a main beam feed in place of the ignition one so the spotties only come on with high beam. Where to find this can be tricky as some vehicles use earth switches (toyotas do for sure).

The big loom under the steering shrouds is usually a good bet or fuse box.

Any q's just ask!!!

thanks for that mate, what size bulbs would i be running to warrent using 25amp relay??

If you can get it past the WOF man I would use 100w Halogens - They will be marked for off road use only but in a good size lamp they will turn night into day Also you can't be too big on the relay as I have seen the little ones melt!!

muddymatt wrote:

muskie wrote:

muddymatt wrote:Hi relays are easy - most hella or bosch will have a little picture on the side. If you get heavy duty one over 25A which I recommend for big f**k off spotties it has two big spades for the power and load (lights) and two smaller ones for the switching side. Run a ignition switched feed - i.e it is live when the key is on to a dash switch and from there to the relay. Ground the other side (small spade). Don't connect the heavys yet. Put the key on and operate the switch - you will hear and feel the relay "click". Put battery positive tho' a nice big fuse to the large spade and run to the lights with the other.

Easy as.....

As far a warrents go it's a bit of a gray area... You might be required to use a main beam feed in place of the ignition one so the spotties only come on with high beam. Where to find this can be tricky as some vehicles use earth switches (toyotas do for sure).

The big loom under the steering shrouds is usually a good bet or fuse box.

Any q's just ask!!!

thanks for that mate, what size bulbs would i be running to warrent using 25amp relay??

If you can get it past the WOF man I would use 100w Halogens - They will be marked for off road use only but in a good size lamp they will turn night into day Also you can't be too big on the relay as I have seen the little ones melt!!

Yeah I've got some truckstar brand 100w bulbs. They are fooking amazing! Brighter than my full beams.

The exact same thing happened to me thats just happened to you Muskie. I went to hook spotlights up and it turned out all the wiring was already there. I think the power window relay was my light one though. Its not hard to trace the wires back to find out though.

Theres also a wee wire (mine was blue) that hooks onto the positive terminal of your battery and has a 15a (I think) fuse (the cylinder type) hooked onto it also.

muskie wrote:
thanks for that mate, what size bulbs would i be running to warrent using 25amp relay??

25A*24V=600W

The headlamp connector plug is shaped like the letter n with three wires leading to it.
You will be using and tapping into the left and the right side wires but not the top centre pin wire,which is low beam.
Stand automotive cube mini relay connections are normally marked as

30 = battery supply via a seperate 25A fuse and holder.
87 = Aux driving lamps
85 = Head lamp bulb right terminal interupted by a dash mounted switch in line.
86 = Head lamp bulb left terminal