Page 1 of 1

Quadbiker hit in beach collision

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:25 am
by smurf182
From the NZ Herald
5:00AM Sunday January 20, 2008
By David Fisher
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10487782&ref=rss

A quadbiker was hospitalised after a collision with another bike on Muriwai beach yesterday afternoon, sparking fresh fears about beach safety.

The man, in his 50s, was in critical care last night after being airlifted to Auckland City Hospital by the Westpac rescue helicopter.

Advanced paramedic Dave Grimshaw was told the man was doing about 40km/h when he was hit in the side by a trailbiker.

Grimshaw said the man, whose first name was Robert, was not wearing a helmet and was not paying attention to his surroundings as he searched for a fishing spot.

He fractured his collarbone and a bone behind it, suffered several fractured ribs and bruising to a lung. The trailbike rider was not seriously hurt.

The injury comes less than three weeks after the death of Daisy Fernandez, the Tauranga teen hit by motocross rider Nikita Kneebone, at Ripiro beach, south of Dargaville.

The 13-year-old's death revived debate about vehicle access to New Zealand beaches, which are treated as roads with a speed limit of 100km/h unless covered by bylaws.

The Auckland Regional Council's Rodney representative, Christine Rose, said the southern part of Muriwai was covered by a bylaw banning vehicles.

But access to the beach north of an area known locally as the cutting, about 1km north of the Muriwai surf club, was essentially "open slather".

She said major problems were caused by the "extreme conflict of different users who are incompatible at the best of times".

Northern Muriwai and neighbouring beach Te Oneone Rangatira were popular with everyone from motorbikers to horse riders.

Rose said identifying the biggest troublemakers was subjective but she believed four-wheel-drive users were the biggest threat to public safety.

Earlier this month ARC group manager for visitor services and assets Jane Aickin said Daisy Fernandez' death highlighted that authorities had been doing "too little, too late".

Rose agreed yesterday's incident was "an accident waiting to happen".

She said a draft report going before regional councillors next month suggested the organisation should take a lead role and pour more cash into tackling the problem.

Options include closing access or beefing up enforcement, but the large number of parties involved made the process tough, she said.

Yesterday's accident heaped more pressure on overstretched lifeguards watching over about 4000 beachgoers.

Trainee nurse Gemma Shepherd, 20, was one of three lifeguards who raced to help after being alerted about 2.45pm.

The lifeguards arrived at the same time as the rescue helicopter and a St John ambulance.

About a dozen people were clustered around three cars, with the quadbike and motorbike involved already loaded on to trailers.

The quadbike driver was on the sand "just lying in the position he had come off the bike", said Shepherd.

"He was conscious when we got there but he had been unconscious for about 10 minutes. He could tell us what day of the week it was and what his name was. He was responsive but he was in a lot of pain."

Lifeguards and paramedics worked together to check the man's vital signs and fit him with a neck-support collar.

The man's wife, who was also on the beach, flew with him to hospital.


So the two recent events involving death/serious injury have been caused by trail/quadbikers but the biggest threat to public safety is 4x4ers??

Re: Quadbiker hit in beach collision

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:49 am
by Nailz
A bit sad that someone got hurt doing what they enjoy. But he shouldve been a bit more conciencious of his surroundings and other beach users, Had he been this surely wouldve been avoidable.
4X4ers get targeted for when these sorts of things happen because, of "the few " that cruise the beach at 80 kph even if theres a 30 kph sign up(foxton), And because its easier to target a big group of users than single out individuals.

Well thats my theory anyway

Re: Quadbiker hit in beach collision

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:26 am
by Rotazuk
Not good for the people that are hurt .

However , two acidents involving quad's and motorbikes and 4wd's are still the biggest threat to public safety . What the ....

Go figure

Chris

Re: Quadbiker hit in beach collision

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:37 am
by TJ
Not a good look for the sport for no fault of 4wd vehicles, except for perhaps providing a mechanism to transport those quad bikes or trail bikes on a trailer. Political rational thinking is not logical at best of times.

Re: Quadbiker hit in beach collision

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:54 am
by tallsam66
Ree this part of article

Rose said identifying the biggest troublemakers was subjective but she believed four-wheel-drive users were the biggest threat to public safety.

I think the writer is meaning that if your pedestrian your biggest threat is from a 4wd, as its most likely to kill you if it hits you.

The fact this hasnt happened yet may be because we are much more visible dont tend to come flying around blind corners etc as much as motorbikes tend too.
And with us being more visible is probably also why we are bearing the brunt of the critisism.

Re: Quadbiker hit in beach collision

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:54 am
by Heath
this sort of hysterical finger pointing when the facts point in another direction does these loonies no good. She has removed her credibility with one unthought out sentence.

It would be laughable if it hadnt been connected to the injuries.

Heath

Re: Quadbiker hit in beach collision

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:29 pm
by skiwi
We've got a new term here at work - Bolitics (a cross between Bollicks,as in load of, and Politics.)

I read this article this morning as well and that was my first thought. Yes it's a shame someone got hurt in this incident and killed in the other one but to point the finger of blame at 4WD users is wrong. I'm sure the ARC are just going to try and use this as an excuse to ban 4WD from the beach.
Yes there is a load of traffic on a nice day out there (most of it on bikes)but 99% of it is well behaved.
We use the beach for fun as well camping out with the kids on the weekend. The guys have fun in the dunes and the kids have a ball at the beach. It would be a shame to loose all that over bolitics.

Re: Quadbiker hit in beach collision

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:48 pm
by madaz068
I found it interesting the other day, there was a news article i think tv3 talking about Macetown. DOC and the police have finally admited that there is a problem with the bikes and that they are the cause of the damage in Macetown. Perhaps one day this silly person up north might admit the same

Re: Quadbiker hit in beach collision

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:01 pm
by PeterVahry
Christine Rose is a Green ARC councillor who has been trying to get vehicles off Muriwai Beach for many years and will grandstand at any opportunity. However she is slowly getting there! I should know what the ARC plan is in the next few days.

It's the old story, you can fix any problem by banning the activity.... but no one has figured out what to do about stupidity.

Re: Quadbiker hit in beach collision

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:56 pm
by smurf182
Not only is Christine Rose an ARC councilor, she is Deputy Chairwoman. I would have thought such a position called for a degree of impartiality. This woman would be wise to remember that in her position she represents ALL beach goers, users of motorised vehicles or not.

Re: Quadbiker hit in beach collision

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:43 am
by PeterVahry
Impartiality in local body politics! When did that start? Most have a position that they are there to improve the world in their style and why listen to the great unwashed.

Re: Quadbiker hit in beach collision

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:25 am
by tpft
That woldn,t have any even made the news a month ago, thing is some bloody mp jumps on the issue in a ploy too advance their carreer and put their name in the limelight, and before long some new silly law is passed.

i don,t think any promblem exsists, injuries sustained in other sports in the last month would total a lot more.
But like a dog with a bone, the media and this Mp will keep hounding and hounding the issue, until it falsley looks to the general public they are doing a great service for new zealand.

In the bay using quads for surfcasting is huge and would total in the 1000,s.

Re: Quadbiker hit in beach collision

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:40 pm
by coxsy
if you feel the need to contact miss rose here it is
mailto:christine.rose@arc.govt.nz