how to raise a Toyota surf 1989 late model

sg8380 · Post by **sg8380** » Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:02 pm

hey i was just wondering how to raise a 1989 new model surf

vvilly · Post by **vvilly** » Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:09 pm

Cant resist
use a jack......

if you have a look at the search engine there heaps of helpful links in there

tweake · Post by **tweake** » Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:16 pm

tons of info around.
depends on what sized lift you want to. small lift ie 2" use aftermarket rear springs and 1" ball joint spacers for the front. add a set of new shocks.

for cheap bigger lift fit cruiser springs.

also check out front diff drop and swaybar spacers.

sg8380 · Post by **sg8380** » Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:53 pm

what land cruiser springs would fit in it and are there any cheap ones around?

tallsam66 · Post by **tallsam66** » Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:26 pm

80 series cruiser springs fit in back ....but unless your doing a SAS in front will be too high.
Basically with IFS the max you can easiely do is 2inches.

sg8380 · Post by **sg8380** » Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:59 am

does anyone have any 80 series springs for sale?

tweake · Post by **tweake** » Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:27 am

where abouts are you?
you might want someone who's local.

no offense i have no idea if your a newbies or a pro, but what mods have been done to the surf?
what are you planning on doing to it?
what size tires are you running or going to fit?
and what style of offroading are you doing or looking to do?

tomsoffroad · Post by **tomsoffroad** » Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:10 am

does anyone have any 80 series springs for sale?

80 series standard height will give you a 4" lift, which will probably more like 4.5 - 5" if you still have the factory saggy springs :wink:

Will be way to much for an IFS Surf.

DEATH_INC · Post by **DEATH_INC** » Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:37 am

http://www.rockymountainsusp.com/toyota4_86_4Runner.htm
Better check with the cert guys if these are legal first tho...

Smurf · Post by **Smurf** » Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:25 pm

Where in NZ are you, I may have a lift suitable for you.

sg8380 · Post by **sg8380** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:18 pm

hey im in tauranga and im putting 31 maxxis buckshot mudders on it this weekend that are on offset hilux rims, i am planning to use it for off roading in my spare time around tauranga so on tracks like whaka, thompsons track and tect park, i am planning put some bull bars on the front and a steel rear bumper

tweake · Post by **tweake** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:05 pm

don't need a lift for 31's.
i would just go for a small lift. when you start getting 33" or up then start looking at bigger lift. small lift saves a lot of hassle with CV angles.

sg8380 · Post by **sg8380** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:56 am

hey im not raising it because of the tyres, i just want ity up higher so when i go offroading the bottom is above the track

tweake · Post by **tweake** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:22 pm

you don't need a big lift to be capable. your going to get hung up on the diff anyway and tires will be limiting factor. as already mentioned by others there is drawbacks with big lifts. cv angles, body roll, on road driveability.

the other interesting thing is some of the big lifted vehicles have less flex than vehicles with less lift.

J_Dub · Post by **J_Dub** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:06 pm

listen to what others are saying, unless your surf is dragging its ass, no need for a lift for 31s.
remove the rear bumper to hugely improve the rear overhang.

lift does not make your truck more capable at all.
only the size of your tyres determines the clearance under your diffs, if the 31s fit without rubbing then it would be more capable as it is, as the factory springs will be softer and flex more

Sadam_Husain · Post by **Sadam_Husain** » Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:18 pm

J_Dub wrote:listen to what others are saying, unless your surf is dragging its ass, no need for a lift for 31s.
remove the rear bumper to hugely improve the rear overhang.

lift does not make your truck more capable at all.
only the size of your tyres determines the clearance under your diffs, if the 31s fit without rubbing then it would be more capable as it is, as the factory springs will be softer and flex more

good practical advice worth listening to right there

sg8380 · Post by **sg8380** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:53 pm

The back is sagging down and i would like to lift it as it looks better so instead of getting standard springs ill try get some 80 series springs

keithal · Post by **keithal** » Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:16 am

sg8380 wrote:The back is sagging down and i would like to lift it as it looks better so instead of getting standard springs ill try get some 80 series springs

which as already stated will lift it approximately 4inches which will not only make it sit nose down (even with the torsions cranked up) but also will require certification for the lift.
If your dead set on lifting your truck you would be better to get a set of 50mm lift springs as they will not require certification.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-par ... 649203.htm

http://www.4wdbits.co.nz/ProductDetails ... ductID=682

theres a couple of options for you to start with

cheers
Alex

tweake · Post by **tweake** » Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:54 pm

also with 4" lift you will need a panhard bar bracket made up. with 2" factory one will do.

sg8380 · Post by **sg8380** » Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:26 pm

I've decided not to put land cruiser springs in the back and wind the torsion bars up now, but i was just wanting to know why it worked in his surf which is a 1992, it sits level i thought it was the same so i could do the same to mine?

J_Dub · Post by **J_Dub** » Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:36 pm

whos surf are you referring to?

sg8380 · Post by **sg8380** » Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:11 pm

It was just one of my mates, just forgot to mention that

sg8380 · Post by **sg8380** » Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:39 pm

If I get 50mm lift springs cannon pop them straight in or will other stuff need to be done to it?

Sadam_Husain · Post by **Sadam_Husain** » Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:45 pm

sg8380 wrote:If I get 50mm lift springs cannon pop them straight in or will other stuff need to be done to it?

if you throw longer springs in you want to make sure your brake hoses are long enough and your shocks have got enough travel for the extra lift

sg8380 · Post by **sg8380** » Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:48 pm

Hey the shocks in the surf are not the standard ones they were upgraded before I bought it is there any way to tell if they will have enough travel?

tweake · Post by **tweake** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:10 pm

for 50mm spring lift most aftermarket shocks will be fine.
brake lines will be ok. only minor thing is to make a spacer for the brake bia lever.
springs are easy enough to install yourself without spring compressors.

front torsions can be wound up or you can look at 1" ball joint spacers.
also sway bar spacer and diff drop spacers will lessen the CV angle.

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