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taieri track message on facebook.

Postby slidenyo » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:07 am

was a fairly convoluted message floating around facebook.
does nzfwda have a set format for track closure notices?
post was to auckland 4wd club an was starting to read like mills an boon.
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Re: taieri track message on facebook.

Postby derk » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:11 am

nzfwda don't have any authority to close tracks they are only negotiators with controlling bodies and messengers back to their member clubs

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Re: taieri track message on facebook.

Postby mudde1taketwo » Tue Aug 30, 2016 7:49 pm

slidenyo wrote:was a fairly convoluted message floating around facebook.
does nzfwda have a set format for track closure notices?
post was to auckland 4wd club an was starting to read like mills an boon.

NZFWDA has no authority to close tracks on Department Of Conservation land, never has had and never will have. The reason is that all Department Of Conservation land is closed to all vehicles at all times, unless use of vehicles is specifically permitted. So tracks are closed to vehicles anyway.
What NZFWDA is trying to do is gain the authority to open some tracks to some vehicles. In the case of the track referred to here, one of the big sticking points is silt getting into waterways, especially in winter. We have a plan in place to mitigate these problems, which will include a winter closure, but it is very hard to convince the Regional Council we can effectively put this plan into place when they see vehicles accessing the track in winter and thereby increasing the silt flow into the waterways.

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Re: taieri track message on facebook.

Postby TJ » Tue Aug 30, 2016 7:49 pm

slidenyo wrote:was a fairly convoluted message floating around facebook.
does nzfwda have a set format for track closure notices?
post was to auckland 4wd club an was starting to read like mills an boon.


Do you have a reference to the message on Facebook or wherever?
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Re: taieri track message on facebook.

Postby mudde1taketwo » Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:32 pm

TJ wrote:
slidenyo wrote:was a fairly convoluted message floating around facebook.
does nzfwda have a set format for track closure notices?
post was to auckland 4wd club an was starting to read like mills an boon.


Do you have a reference to the message on Facebook or wherever?

This is the text of the post.
I need to make it very clear to everyone that the Waitawheta Track at the end of Tairei Road in the Waikato is closed to all vehicles of any description and there is no excuse for anyone being in there in any sort of vehicle.
Just because the gates have been vandalised, doesn’t mean that the track is open. Just because the closed signs have been stolen doesn’t mean that the track is open. Just because you are a local, doesn’t mean that you can use the track. Just because the bollards on the road have been stolen doesn’t mean the track is open. Just because other people are using the track, doesn’t mean you can as well. Just because you can pretend that you didn’t know that the track is closed, doesn’t mean that you can use the track. Just because a lot of other arears are closed, doesn’t mean that you can use this track. Just because you think you won’t get caught or have used it before, doesn’t mean you can use the track. Any combination of the above doesn’t mean the track is open.

Waiawheta Track at the end of Tairei Road is closed to all vehicles. No exceptions

Currently there is an abatement notice issued by Waikato regional Council against DoC requiring then to keep all vehicles out of the area. That can be enforced in court and large penalties apply. Using the track is also in breach of the Conservation Act. I suggest that you have a look in the penalties section of that Act if you are thinking of going in to the area.
NZFWDA has put a massive amount of effort into getting this track open and the biggest stumbling block at the moment is proving that we can prevent over use of the track by closing it from time to time. Every time someone uses that track when it is closed, it gives the groups trying to close the track forever more ammunition to reinforce their argument and weakens our argument that we can control use of the track. That means that those who are using the track at the moment are making it even harder for everyone else.

Waiawheta Track at the end of Tairei Road is closed to all vehicles. No exceptions, no excuses.

Please do not use the track, and report any use of the track to Police and or DoC. And please share this post as widely as possible
Tony Burgess
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Re: taieri track message on facebook.

Postby PeterVahry » Tue Aug 30, 2016 9:21 pm

It might help if the area name is correctly spelt... it is Waitawheta Track... not Waiawheta Track.

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Re: taieri track message on facebook.

Postby TJ » Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:10 pm

PeterVahry wrote:It might help if the area name is correctly spelt... it is Waitawheta Track... not Waiawheta Track.


It does help big time, as now I understand where it was coming from.

Closed tracks are to be respected, there generally is a good reason for closure.
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Re: taieri track message on facebook.

Postby coxsy » Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:54 pm

oh if typed in a pissed off mood , or in a short space of time, spelling is the last thing need to be complained about your not thick you know the track he's refering to :shock:
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Re: taieri track message on facebook.

Postby TJ » Thu Sep 01, 2016 8:58 am

coxsy wrote:oh if typed in a pissed off mood , or in a short space of time, spelling is the last thing need to be complained about your not thick you know the track he's refering to :shock:


No I don't, unless it's proper name is used.
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Re: taieri track message on facebook.

Postby derk » Thu Sep 01, 2016 9:44 am

TJ wrote:No I don't, unless it's proper name is used.



if the "t" is missing from "Waitawheta Track" you wouldn't know what track they are referring to? :D :D

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Postby mudsurfv6 » Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:28 pm

i don't know where your talking about, but surely there isn't a

mudde1taketwo wrote: Waitawheta Track at the end of Tairei Road


and a

mudde1taketwo wrote:Waiawheta Track at the end of Tairei Road


both in the Waikato. :?

even i worked out its the same place. :shock: :roll:
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Re: taieri track message on facebook.

Postby TJ » Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:56 pm

derk wrote:if the "t" is missing from "Waitawheta Track" you wouldn't know what track they are referring to? :D :D


And where does it say Waitawheta Track in the original post?
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Re: taieri track message on facebook.

Postby TJ » Thu Sep 01, 2016 6:00 pm

mudsurfv6 wrote:i don't know where your talking about, but surely there isn't a

mudde1taketwo wrote: Waitawheta Track at the end of Tairei Road


and a

mudde1taketwo wrote:Waiawheta Track at the end of Tairei Road


both in the Waikato. :?

even i worked out its the same place. :shock: :roll:


Sure, hindsight smartness after reading Tony's post. Did you know what OP was talking about? I didn't know what track he meant.
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Re: taieri track message on facebook.

Postby mudsurfv6 » Thu Sep 01, 2016 8:11 pm

TJ wrote:Did you know what OP was talking about?


mudsurfv6 wrote:i don't know where your talking about


not original post no because I don't know the area, have heard of Waitawheta track though, once Waiawheta/Waitawheta track was talked about on the same road I soon figured it out.
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Re: taieri track message on facebook.

Postby skid » Thu Sep 01, 2016 11:25 pm

LOL heres an outsiders point of view.

I wondered if he did actually mean Waitawheta, but seeing as I have never driven in the area I actually googled Waiawheta. I also googled Tairei Road.

Pretty much got nothing :-(

Found it annoying and upsetting to my OCD that both were mis-spelt quite a few times in the post :-(

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Re: taieri track message on facebook.

Postby Ralfie » Fri Sep 02, 2016 3:25 pm

skid wrote:Found it annoying and upsetting to my OCD that both were mis-spelt quite a few times in the post :-(

My 2c :-D


Liked....!!

Also pretty damn poor when the NZFWDA Public Relations officer can't get it right!!

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Postby lax2wlg » Fri Sep 02, 2016 3:59 pm

Probably because he's busy as hell and has better things to do than clown around with minor spelling corrections. You'd have to be clinically retarded not to put two and two together :wink:
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Postby nivaman » Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:00 pm

lax2wlg wrote:Probably because he's busy as hell and has better things to do than clown around with minor spelling corrections. You'd have to be clinically retarded not to put two and two together :wink:

And if he is, what then?.

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Postby lax2wlg » Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:10 pm

Then evolution should weed out the clinically retarded that have no productive or evolutionary value. For natural selection to work, you need a good broad variation in brainpower. We definitely have that. :)

The world is overpopulated anyway, population control is what we need. But unfortunately there are ethical arguments against it. (ie its generally accepted that genocide/mass executions are a bad thing)
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Postby Crash bandicoot » Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:39 pm

That and warning notices seem to circumvent Darwin's theory....
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