surf 4runner coil spacers good or not?

crizpy · Post by **crizpy** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:42 am

hey all im just about to upgrade to a newer 4runner 94 after my old 86 ifs surf.
i put a 50mm OME kit in my old surf just 4 shocks and new heavy duty leafs, problem i had was front felt very rough and stiff when offroad im guessing this is because front bars wound up.
new one has 40mm body lift and 33's and standard sus.
now ive spent all my money so wana get a little more height on the cheap but only want a small lift for now as i dont wanna wind torsion bars right up.
my thoughts are get some 30mm spacers made up. Use my OME front shocks off my old surf and buy some new rear shocks maybe OME to match.
what effects do spacers have for onroad and offroad? will i get better travel with spacers than standard?
or is it a complete waste of time and beter off getting 50mm lift springs.
I have very little money for now and dont want a harch setup like my old one.
and seems if torsion bars arent up so much i will have more down travel in front and less harsh.
will it be ok 2 use my old front shocks thare are designed for 50mm lift?
thanks for your help

krawlr · Post by **krawlr** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:12 am

hey bud
coil spacers will only lift the surf,they wont give you anymore suspension travel at all only adjusts height.
youre front shocks wont fit the newer surf they are different mounts & way too long.
leave the torsion bars alone & get some 50m.m ball joint spacers & use some 4wdbits 50m.m rear coils(not the hvy rate ones!)and just some shocks to suit a 50m.m lift....
the newer surf will feel a bit hard in the front aswell thats why you dont wana tension those bars anymore.

Post by **mike** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:31 am

Hey Krawler where do you get those 50mm ball joint spacers from? Have very briefly heard about this in the past but not seen any anywhere.

Mike

krawlr · Post by **krawlr** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:40 am

hey mike if you have mate with a mill its not hard....

but i think kevin aka buggaburger? did a few sets aswell and hes in chch,goin back a while now :scratch:

DaveM · Post by **DaveM** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:41 am

I got my spacers for the old surf from fabtech engineering in the states years ago. Don't know if they still make them or not.
Would've been easier to get them made locally though

krawlr · Post by **krawlr** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:51 am

sorry crizby read ya post too fast!
yes the front shocks should fit!!!!

UBZ · Post by **UBZ** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:55 am

With 33's and standard suspension and just a 40mm body lift you are going to have rubbing up the front behind the wheel on the arch.

I'd recommend a 50mm lift spring in the back and wind the front torsions 30mm only. Combined with the body lift and a little work with a BFG and this suspension setup works ok :roll:

A Ball Joint spacer will give you a little (30mm) extra compression (UP) travel in the front. However you will need to modify the Upper A-Arm or tap the ball joint to get these to fit. Any bigger than a 30mm spacer and you will have to cut the A-Arm. (I still have mine waiting to Fit)

A coil spacer can be fitted to the rear to give lift only. This is useful if you carry around alot of stuff and the rear end sags all the time. However a 50mm spring lift and a coil spacer will require a adjustable panhard rod or drop bracket to get the diff center again to the chassis.

Get rid of the rear sway bar ,makes a huge difference off road and minimal on road. you can also disconnect the front sway bar for off road only ,which helps a little :roll:

crizpy · Post by **crizpy** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:55 am

Very keen on balljoint spacers Ive read the 20mm spacers fit with no problems at all,I would be keen on this just 20mm Anyone keen to make me a set?

http://images.google.co.nz/imgres?imgur ... n%26sa%3DN

That travel looks Nice.. I Want it !!
hope the link works

UBZ · Post by **UBZ** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:21 pm

You can buy ball joint spacers out of the states from this guy.

http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/ProductLine.shtml