beadlocker rims

Insky · Post by **Insky** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:43 pm

hi can any body explain to me what beadlocker rims are and what sort of tyres you would need them for

dazza85 · Post by **dazza85** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 10:05 pm

Hi there,
I am new to this and I'm sure someone will put me right if I have got this wrong, so hear goes.
Beadlocker rims are designed to keep your tyres on the rims when you are running lower than normal presure.
it is the presure that keeps the bead of the tyre on the rim. lower the presure for better grip on the soft stuff (sand etc) and drive too rough ( realy have some fun ) and you can pop the bead of the tyer in towards the middle of the rim and all the air goes to the top of the tyre. Bead lockers are a steal ring that bolts on the inside of the tyre clamping the bead to the rim to stop it moving.

http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/reviews/beadlocks/

Insky · Post by **Insky** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:32 am

thanks mate - whats the typical price of these rims - do they sell second hand much? looking at putting them on an 85 Hilux

doddzee · Post by **doddzee** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:21 am

They dont come up often second hand, I had mine made my Howat Industries in Lower Hutt they cost $85 each you supply the rims, clean them up and paint them. They can be made to suit any tyre and are great if you want to run tyre pressures of under 10psi. They are a prick to balance though.

worthog · Post by **worthog** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:58 am

Doddzee, I like the signiture you are using now, as I said before "follow me"

De-Ranged · Post by **De-Ranged** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:22 am

:scratch: Hey Doddzee arn't Brian's one's normally $280 ?? I can't be shore but they don't have enough bolts to meet cert requirements.... think its sposed to be 36 bolts per side

I'm just looking into building them

just for myself, at this stage and when your paying $1+ for grade 12 cap screws, makes Brians price look REAL sharp!!

Cheers Reece

doddzee · Post by **doddzee** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:44 am

Might be $280 if he supplies the rims im not sure you will have to ask him, As said I paid $85 each i supplied the rims, i had to get them sandblasted and painted. They have 24 bolts per side, worthog has had a set of brians beadlocks certed, Ill be taking mine through cert, if they dont pass ill just chuck on annother set of wheels for the cert. It depends on the certifier i spose.

All up a set of 4 cost me $700 including rims and sandblasting Then i painted them myself.

krawlr · Post by **krawlr** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:44 am

de-ranged............i know for a fact that brians beadlocks (24hole) are now 100.00 per rim and as doddzee said you supply the rims..........

Jafa · Post by **Jafa** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:55 am

Elite Wheels in ChCh $150+gst + freight / wheel

De-Ranged · Post by **De-Ranged** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:35 am

At that price really makes all the trouble of building them questionable.... hmmmmm

Thanks for that guys, food for thought

Cheers Reece

4WDbits · Post by **4WDbits** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:42 am

Low volumne cert for beadlocks requires 1 bolt every 10 degrees around the beadlock (last time I checked the rules, about a month ago), so beadlocks with less than 36 bolts will not pass a LVV cert for on road use. Having said that, I have seen certed vehicles with 24 bolts, but then I haven't actually checked what was certed on their plate either. Swages Engineering in Auckland make beadlocks than can be certed, 36 bolts, for $200 each when I had mine done, that includes everything except freight. The rims come back looking like new ones and they're not that hard to balance.

lilpigzuk · Post by **lilpigzuk** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:22 pm

4WDbits wrote: Swages Engineering in Auckland make beadlocks than can be certed, 36 bolts, for $200 each when I had mine done, that includes everything except freight. The rims come back looking like new ones and they're not that hard to balance.

They dont do them anymore, I rang a couple of weeks ago....

tank · Post by **tank** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:33 am

Hi,

I am looking at bringing in some H1 HMMWV rims [16.5 x 8.25] that have been modded to toyota 6 on 5.5, and they are beadlocker rims but only 8 or 12 bolt.

Is it easy enough to 'add' more bolts to the 36 required for LVV cert?

Jungle · Post by **Jungle** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:42 am

Very much depends on how they were constructed but in general i'd say it would not be a problem. Just gotta drill and tap some more holes.

Happy drilling.

To mod 12 holes is just adding 2 holes between each original set. Will eual 36 holes.

To mod 10 holes will be a bit tricky though. You might end up with 40 holes me thinks

G

tank · Post by **tank** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:04 pm

Okay, doesnt sound too bad, I'm looking at usa6x6 so ive flicked them a mail they might even be able to do the mod over there before its all powder coated

De-Ranged · Post by **De-Ranged** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:32 pm

hey tank how much are they setting you back landed here ???

I'm looking at cutting up a set of rims and building them up similar to the Hummer rims.... but if the cost is close I might just skip all the bs and buy em

Cheers Reece

tank · Post by **tank** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:50 pm

I was quoted 400USD for a full set, toyotaised, powder coated, all the h/w. Shipping is the big cost and I'm trying to figure a good way.

Slow mo USPS Surface is 50-60USD per rim!

I'm trying to latch on to a local down chch way that may have a container coming over in the near future... anyone reading this lemme know

Landed thats gunna break me at nearly 1k NZD

De-Ranged · Post by **De-Ranged** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:01 pm

a grand I can beat by enough to make it worth the trouble.... I was thinking after I posted Hummer rims are 16.5" too I'd rather stick with 15" nice and common (cheaper rubber

)

Thanks for the info

Cheers Reece

H2OLOVA · Post by **H2OLOVA** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:04 pm

Any of you guys thought about the staun pnuematic beadlock? I've just fitted them to my truck, Locks both sides of the bead. Only been on one outing at 10psi and no trouble. Drove on road without a problem. Cost me $200 per wheel + $45 each to get fitted, but once they're on never worry again. Can even drive on a flat tyre(so they say). Worth thinking about.

turoa · Post by **turoa** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:09 pm

H2OLOVA wrote: Can even drive on a flat tyre(so they say). Worth thinking about.

try it and get back to us :wink:

De-Ranged · Post by **De-Ranged** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:10 pm

Never used them but they seem to be a bit marginal.... half the people who have swear by em cheap easy to fit no problems at speed etc and the other half :lol:

well lets just say they've said enough and said it with enough conviction that I've decided to give building my own beadlocks a go.... instead would be interested to see how you go with them long term....

Cheers Reece

H2OLOVA · Post by **H2OLOVA** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:13 pm

So i'm the Gineau (sp) Pig?? I'm hoping to give them a good working over in the next few months so i'll keep you all informed.

krawlr · Post by **krawlr** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:25 pm

theres a few tricks with fitting them so they work :!:

my mates has put rubber foam patches in the the tyre(glued)cos apparently they still slip but he reckons they work really well now.so the bloody should for 250 each aye........

bruce hughes did the out back challenge with them so they cant be that bad and i wont knock em till ive tried them :wink:

nz4x4 · Post by **nz4x4** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:55 pm

lilpigzuk wrote:
4WDbits wrote: Swages Engineering in Auckland make beadlocks than can be certed, 36 bolts, for $200 each when I had mine done, that includes everything except freight. The rims come back looking like new ones and they're not that hard to balance.

They dont do them anymore, I rang a couple of weeks ago....

I was talking to mike the other day and he said that he could make some beadlocks for me. around $200 per wheel, you supply the wheel he does the rest. Maybe he is just doing them for people he knows now.....

mudchuka · Post by **mudchuka** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:14 pm

i now own b hughes ones. they are good but they take a bit of maintenance. because the tyre still works tubeless mud can enter in between the beads at 5 psi, so like any tubeless tyre they will slow leak.
the easiest way is when cleaning the truck pop the beads and run a wet rag around the tyre and then inflate so they will be good to go nxt time.

U-BOAT · Post by **U-BOAT** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:30 pm

john lovelady racecars in chch do beadlocks for $125 per rim last time i was talking to him. not sure if his are 24 or 36 stud though.

4WDbits · Post by **4WDbits** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:20 am

Beadlocks are manufactured for a specific tyre brand and sometimes size because tyres brands bead sizes vary. First tyre decision, then beadlocks.

De-Ranged · Post by **De-Ranged** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:38 am

A good point that hasn't been discussed, One of the reasons the second air beadlocks were raved about

But I still prefer mechanical beadlocks and

I might even have a way round that... still working on it :roll:

Cheers Reece

krawlr · Post by **krawlr** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:42 pm

yep 4wdbits .....

got a set of bead rings to run simexs and another set for mtrs :wink:

good thing about mech b/locks is you get a flat just unbolt the ring and fit a new tube ,try and do that with those pheunmatic ones :wink:

beadlocker rims

beadlocker rims

Modify existing rims and "add" more beadlock bolts