Chinese Winches

Cloggy_NZ · Post by **Cloggy_NZ** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:34 pm

Anyone have one of these Chinese made winches?
There are several on Trade Me for a real steal at anywhere between around $750.00 to $850.00 for a 9000lbs model. They all look the same, just different brand names.
Are they any good?
Is the fact that they are Chinese a problem, after all, aren't Warn winches (a proud USA brand) made or assembled in Malaysia?

SupraLux · Post by **SupraLux** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:43 pm

I've imported a batch of them and had no problems with any thus far... have a look on the front page, should be the details there - although maybe not as my advertising seems to have mysteriously dissapeared... Mike?

The ones I bought in are 12,000lb since the weight difference was about 1kg and the price difference was negligible.

The only comment I would make about them is the no-load speed (and consequently the loaded speed) is not great - especially compared to an 8274... still, at $850 the price is considerably better than an 8274 (which I think is up around $2k or more from memory)

Steve

Sadam_Husain · Post by **Sadam_Husain** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:44 pm

I'd be a bit wary about trusting them, most knowen brands that have their manufacturing done in taiwan, china etc have higher manufacturing standards than the general goods coming out of those places

Cloggy_NZ · Post by **Cloggy_NZ** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:52 pm

SupraLux wrote:The only comment I would make about them is the no-load speed (and consequently the loaded speed) is not great - especially compared to an 8274...

Steve

Is the difference between 9000-9500lbs ones and the 12000lbs ones in the gearing? Same HP motors, the extra pull is merely achieved by reducing the gearing and thus slowing them down even more?

SupraLux · Post by **SupraLux** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:02 pm

Cloggy_NZ wrote:
SupraLux wrote:The only comment I would make about them is the no-load speed (and consequently the loaded speed) is not great - especially compared to an 8274...

Steve

Is the difference between 9000-9500lbs ones and the 12000lbs ones in the gearing? Same HP motors, the extra pull is merely achieved by reducing the gearing and thus slowing them down even more?

As far as I can tell thats about it... its either a smaller drum diameter or a lower gearing... oh, and the 12,000lb winches have the heavier 10mm (3/8") wire rope, as opposed to the smaller rope on the 9k model.

Steve

SupraLux · Post by **SupraLux** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:03 pm

As a point of interest I might test line speeds of the 9 and 12 to check that, as I have Conans truck here with a 9 on it... and Daz - if you read this I might borrow your truck for some time tests on your 12...

Steve

Cloggy_NZ · Post by **Cloggy_NZ** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:17 pm

I'll be very interested in the result.
I did see your 12000lbs winch at $850.00 and that is a good price. But the speed difference between a 9000 and 12000 is important, especially is all you need is a 9000 pound winch.
If you are able to run some tests, also run them with several layers of cable on the drum. After all it is not often you run all the wire off the drum.
Just thinking that the lower gearing of a 12000lbs winch may just be of some advantage when there are several layers of wire on the drum.
Current draw may also come into the equation as the lower gearing of the 12000lbs winch would draw less current at a given load than the 9000lbs winch pulling the same load.

SupraLux · Post by **SupraLux** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:25 pm

Yeah, will test the no-load line speeds of both from fully unwound... can't test the current draw, however the motors are the same so wouldn't think that they would be too far different for the same loads.

Steve

Daz · Post by **Daz** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:25 am

SupraLux wrote:As a point of interest I might test line speeds of the 9 and 12 to check that, as I have Conans truck here with a 9 on it... and Daz - if you read this I might borrow your truck for some time tests on your 12...

Steve

Yeah no problem, hopefully will have it finished tonight, its been a nightmare trying to fit the winch bar :roll:

. Couldn't get any high tensile bolts locally, so misses going to black today to get me some.

callum007 · Post by **callum007** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:14 pm

i have a 12k 24volt one.. it had a higher horsepower motor than the equivalent 9.5k one..

Only thing i recommend is you strip them down at new. and add GOOD grease to them.. and seal em up where nessacary..

minefield · Post by **minefield** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:50 pm

Gregorys Eng. in Picton has a 9000lb chinese winch that was to pull a boat up a slip in the sounds ,I had a look at it and asked what he through!! he said it was good but where the armiture houseing bolted to the main body there was no seal it was just metal to metal that ment water could get into the armiture houseing and bearings :evil:

I asked about the gearbox if that was sealed he just shrugged and said why would be any differant :twisted:

If you ring he may give you more info
ph;5736223

minefield · Post by **minefield** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:50 pm

Gregorys Eng. in Picton has a 9000lb chinese winch that was to pull a boat up a slip in the sounds ,I had a look at it and asked what he through!! he said it was good but where the armiture houseing bolted to the main body there was no seal it was just metal to metal that ment water could get into the armiture houseing and bearings :evil:

I asked about the gearbox if that was sealed he just shrugged and said why would be any differant :twisted:

If you ring he may give you more info
ph;5736223