35's not big enough.

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Re: 35's not big enough.

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hosehustler wrote:
darinz wrote:FYI I think the other trucks in the photo look stupid compared to yours! They look like trucks that are trying to look good rather than be good. High COG is only a good thing if you are a redneck swamp racer in the US! :mrgreen:


Nice of you to stereo type us *thanks*, I will keep my thought's to myself.
:evil: Tim



Nah don't Tim.

I guess I could ask the simple question personally but I don't meet you guys to often in the flesh.
And maybe, the input you boys ad to threads can help others?

All n all, I believe this site is a valuable one to learners AND ledgends.

Might see some of you tonight at the meeting. It's about time I turned up in support. :D
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Re: 35's not big enough.

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darinz wrote:You have to choose tyres that suit what you drive, where you drive and how you drive.


here you are quoting that and yet you dont listen to your own advice? petes buggy was custom made to suit a specific purpose and yet you belittle other trucks that have been modified from a standard platform (ie a std chassis'd vehicle) to do a completely different type of pedalling. we've chosen vehicles to suit what we drive, where we drive and how we drive.

darinz wrote: They look like trucks that are trying to look good rather than be good. High COG is only a good thing if you are a redneck swamp racer in the US!


ok champ.

1.. cog. a fizz boat is low and a yacht is tall, yet the yacht is really stable yes? (p.s.. thats just an example of comparitives, dont take it as a literal adaptation of this scenario..) :roll: its not all in how high a vehicle is but more where the weight lies.

2.. my fawdy doesnt look good.
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Re: 35's not big enough.

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niblik wrote:2.. my fawdy doesnt look good.


cough BULLSHIT cough. :lol:

To watch in action is farken awesome mate.
But then what do I know. :roll:
You've only just started to take it out nibs. I bet you'll be tweaking it here and there to suit your driving.
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Re: 35's not big enough.

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darinz wrote:If you are having problems because you truck looks small then I say get over it as that low height is the key to having it perform. Low COG means better traction in all directions.

Listen to Meatc as he has been embarassing a lot of bigger trucks in NI winch comps for a while now and he runs the smallest tyres and the smallest motor and an electric winch. (just to blow all stereotypes away) The reason is actually really simple. He nows his truck and drives it accordingly. Yes that is n over-simplification but you get the idea.

FYI I think the other trucks in the photo look stupid compared to yours! They look like trucks that are trying to look good rather than be good. High COG is only a good thing if you are a redneck swamp racer in the US! :mrgreen:

There has been some really good advice from people with experience further up this thread and none of it was suggesting you get bigger tyres!


Well I've had a think for the day Pete, this guy is and his idol are 100% correct with what they are saying........ and boy just as it happens..... :P have I got a deal for you :wink:
Here's a shot of my fathers wagon. (you'll notice it's not struggling at all in the Sth Isl West coast conditions)

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it's got a few mods, lifted (not much tho... COG was a major), lockers, hi-steer, intercooled turbo, dual transfers, etc...etc, but what makes this beast awesome beyond belief is it's perfect sized 32" Simex's and a average speed warn low-mount winch..
Now the deal to get ya buggy performing better :P
He will happily trade your shitter silverstone 35's for the 32's, and his slow mount for that 8274 on your's.
This will make your buggy go better Pete without a doubt...why you ask :?: .....simple, you will have a lower COG, and you will have to learn to drive it better so you can beat all us redneck swamp dwellers with your superior skill and make us marvel at what you can achieve with a slow mount and small tyres.
Ph me if you're keen on a swap, cash his way of course :wink:
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Re: 35's not big enough.

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Lets try some tech :D

The general rule of thumb in mud is narrower is better?

Can anybody explain to me why? I have a set of 38x15.5 and they lack side grip but still have two fingerwidths between blocks...

Just wondering if I leave them for a big power sand buggy beast
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Re: 35's not big enough.

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Andrew1706 wrote:Lets try some tech :D

The general rule of thumb in mud is narrower is better?

Can anybody explain to me why? I have a set of 38x15.5 and they lack side grip but still have two fingerwidths between blocks...

Just wondering if I leave them for a big power sand buggy beast


OK, this is just my view so no one bite my head off...

If by mud you mean deep sticky bogs then I say the taller and wider the better :!: Some will tell you that you want to dig down to the hard soil but often you are just going to diff out before that happens.

I'm working on improving my weight to tire footprint, clearance under the diffs, and power to spin the rubber and clear the tread (got to have the HP or right gearing to clear the big rubber). Floating over bogs and keeping up the momentum is my main aim. :twisted:

Of course this is only one type of offroading and if you are taking about slippery grass banks then i'd be saying something different.

Hope that helps.
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Re: 35's not big enough.

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Com'on guys lighten up.
Joys of a public fourm is sometimes people put their opinon across that you don't agree with. don't think firing bac is a good way of answering something that was made in jest.
Happen to think that a low cog is important but to a point. No use having a truck that sits 'inside' its wheels when a good ramp over angle is needed. nor having a high truck when good balance is needed for sidlings/hill climbs,esp when traveling faster than a dead crawl.


for good grip,the way i understand it anyhow, is you want agood amount of pressure per squareinch of tyre contact area. how much you want is completly up to what kinda driving you do,type of vehcile you have and your personal preference.
Narrow tyres do better in mud as there is more weight on the side 'lugs' making them bite the mud/ground better.
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Re: 35's not big enough.

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faaark it all Pete

piss everyone off and buy these bad boys

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44 inches of redneck goodness
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-par ... 147000.htm
80 Series on 35" creepies, manual with twin factory lockers.
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Re: 35's not big enough.

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Cheers skid! I might just do that. :lol:
They look like a Toyota stud pattern to. I've asked him what offset they are. 8)
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