Kzj78 springs

mudmike · Post by **mudmike** » Fri May 18, 2007 2:22 pm

Hi my first post but been a member a few weeks,
Have been looking at a lift for my cruiser, a kzj 78
has anyone useing the efs 75mm lift?
is it any good?
are other lifts better?
Been looking for a pto winch to set up, anyone know of one at a good price?
Thanks

wjw · Post by **wjw** » Fri May 18, 2007 3:08 pm

comments on efs that I've heard are that they are designed for OZ conditons not nza. I bouth 100mm lift spring from Chamberlains in Christchurch .

kaney · Post by **kaney** » Fri May 18, 2007 3:18 pm

wjw wrote:comments on efs that I've heard are that they are designed for OZ conditons not nza. I bouth 100mm lift spring from Chamberlains in Christchurch .

i also have the chamberlains 100mm lift and it seems to work well.

Steve_t647 · Post by **Steve_t647** » Fri May 18, 2007 3:27 pm

I have read a lot but no personal experience of them for your truck.

The cruiser ones are very stiff and designed for off roading carying a lot of gear (water sand mats etc), Rick at 4wd accessories can get them in CHCH and may be able to help with the spring rates.

They are a very good springmaker and they make ARB springs in the same plant. Every spring maker has horror stories and the one I heard may have been someone who ordered or got the wrong advice.

if you do lift it don't change the spring rate much it may wallow on the road but way better off road. As people say on here about leaf springs the saggy ones flex best :shock:

I am sure they were talking about springs anyway! :twisted:

wjw · Post by **wjw** » Fri May 18, 2007 4:43 pm

My truck has good road manners, but it needed quite a few bits to make everything goooood. The Rancho adjustable shocks made the biggest difference...

mudmike · Post by **mudmike** » Fri May 18, 2007 5:27 pm

Thanks for the info, what about panhard rod? relocater, after market adjustable or like 4x4 upgrades cut and weld?
Road manners need to be ok, I change between standard road wheels and 33 mud tyres for playing.
with the 100mm lift was caster bushes ok or something more involved needed.

kaney · Post by **kaney** » Fri May 18, 2007 5:46 pm

the castr arms had to be bent on mine when they it was lifted and it did wander alot on the road but a wheel alignment delt with this issue well enough (does need another now). my lift kit came with a relocator- which is a bonus as if you ever take the lift kit out it is easy and wont you wont have to recut/reweld

wjw · Post by **wjw** » Fri May 18, 2007 8:59 pm

You need castor correction bushes now... bending is now longer certifiable.

Set of springs
Shocks
Castor Correction Bushes
Longer bump stops??? depending on tyres, rim offsets, shock lengths etc.

Where are you?

mudmike · Post by **mudmike** » Sat May 19, 2007 8:58 pm

I'm in Karaka south of Auckland,
When last in Christchurch talked to a few of the shops,
they were pushing the raw shocks,
not talked to anyone on them yet.
feed back from ome 50mm lift is ok but most on them are looking for more.

Clint · Post by **Clint** » Mon May 21, 2007 11:49 am

If you only want to fit 33s 50mm should be enough. I got 40mm toughdog springs, the front ones didn't fit, the rears have sagged a little but are otherwise good. I packed my bumpstops down a bit too. With 100mm you'd most likely have to get longer brakelines & breathers, they're marginal on mine.

Here's some info on the winch install, you might need to get the gear for your transfer case as well as the pto box & winch:

http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=2123&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=45

Cheers
Clint

wjw · Post by **wjw** » Mon May 21, 2007 1:15 pm

Some 33's would fit on the Prado with nothing but longer bump stops. 50mm lift would certainly be easier to do and wouldn't affect the handling anywhere near as much.

rowinz · Post by **rowinz** » Tue May 22, 2007 4:38 pm

I got 33x10.5s BFGs under mine with no lift at all. The 12.5s on white spokes I had and initially tried limited steering lock due to rubbing on suspension arm inside rear, Turning circle isn't that great when you're used to SWB trucks, so went 10.5 (on factory rims). Truck doesn't articulate that well, but it hits the stops just before the tyres rub, less than a finger width gap. From bumber is quite close (say15mm) but it doesnt rub. Wheel arches look pretty full.

mudmike · Post by **mudmike** » Tue May 22, 2007 10:42 pm

I've been running 33x12.5 15 on 15x8 white spokes with -19 offset.
no problems with clearance. but when off roading around queenstown a bit more articulation was needed.
Thanks for the points of view most helpful.