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Re: cert???
Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:57 pm
by Lynx
u13turbo wrote:DaveM wrote:u13turbo wrote:Im finding this really funny.. Its pretty simple, they work on a dairy farm, Have several workers, with no time to walk around a farm...., so they need vehicles, which are 3 suzukis because thats best suited for them. Its not going to be practical to have 1 and share it around. And as said, moving stock on a stock truck 2kms down the road is going to be a stupidly unnecessary cost. Kinda pissing me off that people seem to know more about these farmers than the farmers themselves.....
Whats even more simple is the fact that he has stated he runs 30" tyres, so why would you need to lift a Suzuki more than 100mm for farm work? If it isn't lifted more than that, there would be no need for joining a club, if it's over, just drop it, surely under 100mm lift will still get you round the farm?
its also the $400 cost for someone to take 10minutes to check that u tightened 10 or whatever bolts up.
Have you seen how body lifts effect body mounts, or the forces changed on the bodymouts after a body lift?
Re: cert???
Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:26 pm
by J_Dub
trade the zooks for donkeys
Re: cert???
Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:02 pm
by lilpigzuk
LOLYF wrote:what we really want to know is why all three suzuki's need more than 100mm of lift and how they all get WOF's without a cert?

Took me a while it was these suzukis not the SJ413 type farm workers

yes its a honda but you get the idea
Still the nz4wda isnt doing this to make money? some people are coming across really fawkin stupid that they can comprehend this

Its been explained black and white.
cant believe I posted in this thread
Re: cert???
Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:36 pm
by NJV6
Flash2004 wrote:For some reasons a bit hard to figure out its our fault if they need to get a cert for it and our fault the Government doen't think stock should be on the roads. It might not make sense to truck cattle 2km up the road, but then it makes less sense to buy a place where you need to do that.
Jackpot! Don't worry Gordon, not all southern farming folk are expect the public's road is for their stock.
For the most part stock movement shouldn't be done on the roads, shit is hard on vehicles and on the roads which are bad enough anyway!
Anyway, back to the thread, we wanna see a 4 inch lifted suzuki carry!!!
Re: cert???
Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:04 pm
by Lost Jimny
NJV6 wrote:Anyway, back to the thread, we wanna see a 4 inch lifted suzuki carry!!!
x2
Now ya talking...
Re: cert???
Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:14 pm
by crazyclark31
NJV6 wrote:Flash2004 wrote:For some reasons a bit hard to figure out its our fault if they need to get a cert for it and our fault the Government doen't think stock should be on the roads. It might not make sense to truck cattle 2km up the road, but then it makes less sense to buy a place where you need to do that.
Jackpot! Don't worry Gordon, not all southern farming folk are expect the public's road is for their stock.
For the most part stock movement shouldn't be done on the roads, shit is hard on vehicles and on the roads which are bad enough anyway!
Anyway, back to the thread, we wanna see a 4 inch lifted suzuki carry!!!
didn't rodger do them when was at A1?
Re: cert???
Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:35 pm
by tintin
Lost Jimny wrote:NJV6 wrote:Anyway, back to the thread, we wanna see a 4 inch lifted suzuki carry!!!
x2
Now ya talking...
here ya go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Bko1jvngDEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38UcCF6Cvgs&feature=related
Re: cert???
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:51 am
by mikee
Fark how dangerous is that you can see why we need laws to protect ourselves

Re: cert???
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:59 pm
by Hiluxaholic
Some interesting reading here guys! lol
Just doing a build atm and this new law going to affect me a little, just after a bit of clarification. If i have a total lift over 100mm i require cert and have to join a 4wd club, If under 100mm i just require cert?
Did i get this rite or wrong?
If so dose anyone know the factory height of a ln130/ln131 surf? lol
Thanks
Re: cert???
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:28 pm
by crazyclark31
thats correct the way i see it. so go 95mmup and cert is all u need
Re: cert???
Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:11 pm
by HardYota
and just so im 100% sure. this includes tyres??
50mm bodylift
50mm susp lift
& 35s
= over 100mm correct???
Re: cert???
Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:24 pm
by PigFmr
DaveM wrote:getsum wrote:we will be affected by it if you can read..
we require wofs to legally drive on the rd.
to get a wof we will now require a authority card and cert
So your farm hack will be running over 4" lift? If not, you should NOT need an authority card.
Nothing else has changed, if you need to get a cert, the rules are the same.
farm rego class b,do wot ya like , i have been for years before i got certed for ute conversion ,turbo,etc,
no RUC'S no WOF needed but a always had one
and less than $50 a year for rego
vince....
Re: cert???
Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:41 pm
by PigFmr
my cert cost $570 all up on my safari,ute conversion,roll cage,turbo,35's,rims,intercooler,front diff moved forward,panard rods,rear trail arms,2 seats,steering wheel yes you have to get that done aswell,even my bonnet scoop has to be done.3inch exhaust,4 inch coil lift etc.if aint factory get it certed dont matter how small,this includes coil spacers if you have them
$570 aint alot of money that will only just buy 2 decent tyres,and your fines will exceed this now,and hope it never happens but a un certed fourby in a crash, weather its a safe mod or not ur in da shit if it aint certed mods no insurance etc.
vince
Re: cert???
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 3:23 pm
by wjw
HardYota wrote:and just so im 100% sure. this includes tyres??
50mm bodylift
50mm susp lift
& 35s
= over 100mm correct???
Tyres aren't included. Mine was measured from the centre of the wheel hub to the bottom of the wheel arch
Re: cert???
Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:31 pm
by toysuzi
rules as they are now
springs and shocks . all out of the virm
b) the vehicle requires unreasonable force to steer, or
c) the steering is unreasonably stiff, rough or light, or
d) the vehicle does not handle safely under normal
conditions of road use, eg the suspension is
excessively hard or soft, or there is excessive body
roll.
• the springs or shock absorbers are direct replacements, and
• replacement springs are contained within unmodified OE seats throughout full
suspension travel, and
• replacement springs are self-retaining in their seats at full extension, without the use of
non‑standard devices such as wire-ties, straps, or external spring locators, and
• replacement springs have not been heated or cut, and
• springs and spring seats are not height adjustable (unless OE), and
• replacement shock absorbers, including air-adjustable units, fit unmodified OE
mountings, and
• suspension maintains sufficient travel for safe operation when fully laden, and
• suspension components maintain sufficient clearance from unmodified bumpstops
when fully laden, and
• a minimum of 100 mm ground clearance (unladen and without driver) exists below any
part of the vehicle structure, or any steering, braking or suspension component2, and
• the normal relationship between front and rear suspension height is not unduly affected.
2 Does not include such items as exhaust pipes and
and body lifts
3. A modification affects the vehicle structure – including an object or fitting affixed after manufacture that is welded to the chassis, sub-frame, cross-member or body of a monocoque structure, and
a) is not excluded from the requirements for LVV specialist certification (Table 3-1-1), and
b) is missing proof of LVV specialist certification, ie:
i. the vehicle is not fitted with a valid low volume vehicle certification plate, or
ii. the operator is not able to produce a valid modification declaration or authority card.
Re: cert???
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:56 am
by dave_ln130
that is what i wanted to no 7 pages ago thanks toysuzi
Re: cert???
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:22 pm
by DaveM
dave_ln130 wrote:that is what i wanted to no 7 pages ago thanks toysuzi
Did you read the first reply where you were told a body lift requires a cert?
Re: cert???
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:38 pm
by toysuzi
i would say may need a cert
all up to the inspectors discretion if it affects handling or the vehicles structure
Re: cert???
Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:53 am
by DaveM
toysuzi wrote:i would say may need a cert
all up to the inspectors discretion if it affects handling or the vehicles structure
For the sake of $500 I'd be getting a cert rather than risk no insurance. Another case of certifiers not having the same standards. You could take the same vehicle to 3 different guys, all 3 would have different opinions.