cert???

dave_ln130 · Post by **dave_ln130** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 3:54 pm

hi ive looked for a while but cant find anything on the forums
what is the rule with cert for my truck ive changed the rear springs and woulnd up the torsion bars at the front and have a 50mm bidy lift....do i need cert??????

crazyclark31 · Post by **crazyclark31** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:00 pm

if you've got a body lift then you'll need a cert.

kbushnz · Post by **kbushnz** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:02 pm

Technically Yes for the body lift part....(cringe)
As for the suspension, as it stands you can go up or down 50mm from factory (what ever that was) without a cert.

Watch this space

KIWI_TERRANO · Post by **KIWI_TERRANO** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:03 pm

Talking to the cert man on monday he said they going to try make 50mm body lifts legal dont know how true this is, and he reackons the suspension lift rule will never work and a money making sceme for the nz4wda which I agree with

dave_ln130 · Post by **dave_ln130** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:12 pm

i might take it out and put the standards back in im not gaining anything because i dont have large wheels seems alot more work than its worth ,ill put it in when i go for engine cert

getsum · Post by **getsum** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:17 pm

had a mate talk to his certifier the other day about body lifts, he said he didnt need a cert..

would be good if everyone was on the same bloody page...

gives everyone a different answer,so if you ran without a cert you can get pinged,but you were told your legal.. :oops:

Mudde1 · Post by **Mudde1** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:41 pm

getsum wrote:had a mate talk to his certifier the other day about body lifts, he said he didnt need a cert..

would be good if everyone was on the same bloody page...
gives everyone a different answer,so if you ran without a cert you can get pinged,but you were told your legal..

Your mates certifier needs to check his facts with LVVTA who give him the authority to issue certs and read the information that is sent to him. it is very clear, and has been for some time, that all body lifts require a cert.
Tony Burgess.
President NZFWDA

KIWI_TERRANO · Post by **KIWI_TERRANO** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:45 pm

yer and my cert man said you guys are money hungry people who dont care about 4wders down here in south Island making up stupid laws with the ltsa and not listen to the WHOLE VOICE of nz

Mudde1 · Post by **Mudde1** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:02 pm

KIWI_TERRANO wrote:Talking to the cert man on monday he said they going to try make 50mm body lifts legal dont know how true this is, and he reackons the suspension lift rule will never work and a money making sceme for the nz4wda which I agree with

Making 50 mm body lifts with out cert legal was considered and rejected a long time ago.
Reackons the suspension lift rule will never work ?? How did he work that out when he has not seen the rule?

KIWI_TERRANO · Post by **KIWI_TERRANO** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:08 pm

he has seen the rulethey get emails of about this shit and hes seen it up here and the card Idea like alot of people have said already wont stop anything and will make buying selling vehicles inpossible and that farmers are going to get fuked over

KIWI_TERRANO · Post by **KIWI_TERRANO** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:15 pm

he also has a member ship on here I believe

Mudde1 · Post by **Mudde1** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:28 pm

KIWI_TERRANO wrote:he has seen the rulethey get emails of about this shit and hes seen it up here and the card Idea like alot of people have said already wont stop anything and will make buying selling vehicles inpossible and that farmers are going to get fuked over

it is impossible that he has see the rule. The rule has not been written yet.
Farmers wont have a problem if they want a moderate lift. that will be allowed. Please check your facts.
Tony Burgess
President NZFWDA

KIWI_TERRANO · Post by **KIWI_TERRANO** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:33 pm

I have and how will farmers not be affected me and the neighbour both have work utes with 4 inch lifts in so how are we ment to get wofs if it comes into play? think we have time to join a club?

What do you do for a job? ever been on a farm and see the terrrain we face?!!?!!

KIWI_TERRANO · Post by **KIWI_TERRANO** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:35 pm

And how is it inpossible when its on here?

DaveM · Post by **DaveM** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:43 pm

KIWI_TERRANO wrote:yer and my cert man said you guys are money hungry people who dont care about 4wders down here in south Island making up stupid laws with the ltsa and not listen to the WHOLE VOICE of nz

Hope it wasn't Wayne whinging about this, and why is this person implying that this is all about picking on us in the south

Oh, and haven't we already got a thread to argue about this?

KIWI_TERRANO · Post by **KIWI_TERRANO** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:48 pm

Yes sorry Just me getting pissed off again.

Just feel we havent all had a chance to put something to the nz4wda to look at. Many farmers Ive been talking to are going to fucked , not all farmers have moderitly lifted trucks guess they dont take this into account.

Sadam_Husain · Post by **Sadam_Husain** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:51 pm

does federated farmers not look after your interests?

KIWI_TERRANO · Post by **KIWI_TERRANO** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:53 pm

but they dont make aware of laws for modeified 4wds

guess it like the nz4wda never thinking about farmers utes

Sadam_Husain · Post by **Sadam_Husain** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:55 pm

KIWI_TERRANO wrote:but they dont make aware of laws for modeified 4wds

go talk to them mate they pull a lot of numbers

kbushnz · Post by **kbushnz** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:05 pm

This is why I cringed.....

You only have to look at the WOF rules..

The threshold as it stands is in there....No if buts or maybes...

Wot one wof man will let you get past him / her differs.

Proof in the pudding will be when you are standing in front of the man with the white wig. Trying to explain why your vehicle conforms to the rules when it doesn't.....

Calvin

Mudde1 · Post by **Mudde1** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:09 pm

KIWI_TERRANO wrote:Yes sorry Just me getting pissed off again.

Just feel we havent all had a chance to put something to the nz4wda to look at. Many farmers Ive been talking to are going to fucked , not all farmers have moderitly lifted trucks guess they dont take this into account.

I have invited people to contact me if they want to put a proposal to us. All the exec have email address on the assn web site, i am in the Ak phone book twice, a Google search will find me, and PMs from this site will reach me. Not a single person has put a proposal to me.
Tony Burgess
President NZFWDA

lexulance · Post by **lexulance** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:11 pm

Im an AVI and i dont think we have had any info from LTNZ as yet about the lift laws, will have a look through the VIRM tomorrow and check the updates, will get back to you guys tomorrow nite

DaveM · Post by **DaveM** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:12 pm

KIWI_TERRANO wrote:Yes sorry Just me getting pissed off again.

Just feel we havent all had a chance to put something to the nz4wda to look at. Many farmers Ive been talking to are going to fucked , not all farmers have moderitly lifted trucks guess they dont take this into account.

No need to apologise, I know where you are coming from, but it makes it worse when LVVC'ers interperet the rules differently to each other.

Oh well, I'm resigned to the fact that little can be done about it now

Mudde1 · Post by **Mudde1** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:16 pm

KIWI_TERRANO wrote:I have and how will farmers not be affected me and the neighbour both have work utes with 4 inch lifts in so how are we ment to get wofs if it comes into play? think we have time to join a club?

What do you do for a job? ever been on a farm and see the terrrain we face?!!?!!

Not sure why my job makes a difference, but if you want to know, I am a fencing contractor. After 35 years of driving on farms I do feel that I understand the terrain that farmers have to drive, and yes I do drive a modified 4wd for work, and it is used in 4wd most days.
Tony Burgess
President NZFWDA

KIWI_TERRANO · Post by **KIWI_TERRANO** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:21 pm

Because most people that make or help decide laws are suits who dont see anywhere out of Auckland or Wellington.
]Sorry to be quick to judge but then with this in mine why havent you contacted federate farmers when all this started?

GotFlex · Post by **GotFlex** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:26 pm

i say we do a big convoy and fuk the auckland traffic like the bikes and cockys have done when the govt wanted to fuk them over

KIWI_TERRANO · Post by **KIWI_TERRANO** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:28 pm

GotFlex wrote:i say we do a big convoy and fuk the auckland traffic like the bikes and cockys have done when the govt wanted to fuk them over

where the like button

LOLYF · Post by **LOLYF** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:31 pm

GotFlex wrote:i say we do a big convoy and fuk the auckland traffic like the bikes and cockys have done when the govt wanted to fuk them over

You've obviously never seen Auckland traffic, you couldn,t make it any worse by bringing in rent a crowd :lol:

:lol

getsum · Post by **getsum** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:32 pm

im a dairy farmer.

i require a lifted truck to get work done on the farm.
we dont have quads because they cant go the same places as the 4x4s..
we also require a wof to be able to walk our stock on a public rd.so now we will need to certify 3 trucks,and join a club just so we can walk our stock 3 km???

sorry,but thats just a F###G joke..

sure i wouldnt mind too much for my own truck,but come on..

we wont get a cert untill we are forced to..its a huge cost to us to take our vehicles over to chch to get a check done, then drive back a couple of weeks later to get the plate put on...waste of money and time...

and how does having a cert make the truck safer???

KIWI_TERRANO · Post by **KIWI_TERRANO** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:39 pm

agree with you there mate, like farmings not expensive and hard enough how it is.

And if it wont make a impact in auckland How about driving up the stepsof paliment?

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