hilux highsteer studs

[muddyplumber]

doing a budget highsteer set up on my soa bighorn/hilux, its the flipped arm style, iv removed the shorter studs, my question is where can i get longer studs, tried afew places including Blacks

[rokhound]

Custom units dude. Go and see a friendly engineer and get some turned up. They are different threads at each end.

Hope you are not running over a 35" tyre, as this system is shit for that. The studs come loose, and try to throw the swivel hub off. There are ways around it, search it on PBB.

[turoa]

I went and got some cap screws for mine. They havnt come loose yet (on 35's)

[GotFlex]

Reece (De Ranged) made mine, out of Chromolly
Give him a ring

0275418794

[rangimotors]

Custom units dude. Go and see a friendly engineer and get some turned up. They are different threads at each end.

Hope you are not running over a 35" tyre, as this system is shit for that. The studs come loose, and try to throw the swivel hub off. There are ways around it, search it on PBB.

rich, you know how deans truck fell apart at lake daniels and was very lucky it happened at very slow speed and not on the way there, this was the cause. Be carefull what you do with the steering it gets real dodgey real quick.

[muddyplumber]

yea bro heard about that eh...iv got all(most) the bits to do it, picked up the custom arm from supaluxs mu. yourv got me thinkn now cos im gonna run those 36z

[rangimotors]

yea i hear ya, im in the same boat, just bought some 36's as well need to do my steering etc. Its very very tempting to go the cheap way but i know that i really should save and buy the good gear. Even if your not worried about saftey ya gotta think about having it reliable as well, nothing worse than loosing steering 3 hours into a hard yakka trip, your pretty fucked for getting the truck out to repair it.

[andrew007]

been their,running 36s,high steer,had studs sheer off on trip!not good.the studs come loose at all they will sheer off,& they do seem to come loose even if tight.I replaced all studs,cone washers,new from toyota.locktite stud locked studs in.Has been ok since.Its the 3rd vechile in club that has had this happen.

[rokhound]

The reason i stated it was that I had both sides come loose at the same time on a trip. My studs were 4310 chromolly, and manged to shear off 2 and lost another 1 altogether.
I never had a huge issue with them when running the 36's, but when I put the 39.5's on it all turned to shit.
Solved the problem by converting the swivel hub to a 5 stud set up. You could also sort it by doing something similar to what Jafa did, and machine a key way in between the arm and swivel, this takes a lot of the pressure off the studs.

[haynzy]

The reason i stated it was that I had both sides come loose at the same time on a trip. My studs were 4310 chromolly, and manged to shear off 2 and lost another 1 altogether.
I never had a huge issue with them when running the 36's, but when I put the 39.5's on it all turned to shit.
Solved the problem by converting the swivel hub to a 5 stud set up. You could also sort it by doing something similar to what Jafa did, and machine a key way in between the arm and swivel, this takes a lot of the pressure off the studs.

runnin 37's I have to torque mine up every time I take it out

[Jafa]

This is just my opinion, but I think the flipped arm method with extended studs is a absolute shit way of doing histeer if your gonna run anything bigger than a 32" tire. The studs are a bad enough setup when they hold only one arm on, let alone two. Its been done plenty of times in the US and aussie with the majority of people going to real histeer because of the weaknesses of the flipped arm method. You generate lots of force through the steering system, and its surprisingly easy to snap the stock studs, let alone long ones, unless your setup is perfect, and torqued before every trip. Dont be budget on ya steering, dont forget its the only thing connecting you to the wheels at 100kph

[GotFlex]

De Ranged machined me a spacer block so you torque down your first arm as normalwith the cone washers and nuts, then the spacer block fits over the 4 bolts and then the 2nd arm goes on and 4 more nuts and cone washers again and torqued up,

[De-Ranged]

That setup is the best you can do with the "budget" setup I've machined face's on all the mateing surfaces and an integral key..... but as I told you back at the start this isn't as strong as a one piece arm, I only do this for people who are on a tight budget the machining involved is way past the $250 mark I charge... but I'd rather see my setup than a stack of nuts
Oh and now that your on the 35"s I'd recomend you test teh torgue every now and then

[Jafa]

Budget should make no difference to safety, especially when the vehicle is potentially on the same piece of road as me, or people I care about!
Its been shown many times that the flipped arm method is weak, but hey if you are puddling about on 31's, by yourself in your own private paddock, then go right ahead and use it. If its going on a road going truck, or one that is using tracks with others, then save up for proper histeer, or leave it stock.

[rangimotors]

well we are on the topic jafa, can you make a list or required parts and prices from snr to go high steer? Pretty sure i know what i need but a shopping list is always handy.

[Jafa]

well we are on the topic jafa, can you make a list or required parts and prices from snr to go high steer? Pretty sure i know what i need but a shopping list is always handy.

1 x pair Histeer arms - $494
1 x tierod - $95
1 x draglink - $95
1 x IFS pitman arm adapter - $80
3 x FJ80 tierod ends - $45 ea.

This assumes you have an IFS steering box mounted up, ready to go. If not then you will need an IFS steering box mounting kit also($135). You can do it cheaper by using just a pair of histeer arms, and make/lengthen/shorten the Hilux tierods and draglinks. The above list will give you the beastiest setup, using heavy duty tierods etc, and 80 series cruiser balljoints, as I say tho, for less money you can use your own Hilux stuff as well, just not as strong.

Cheers
Jafa

[Chopper01]

do your high steer arms need crack testing?

[Jafa]

do your high steer arms need crack testing?

What for?, they are a steel forging, not welded or cast or bent.

[zookfest]

go for good steering,if you want decent rubber under your truck then you need to ne able to turn it safely also if you have 35 or 36 inch tires and ya steering shits itself like mine did and your on the hills on the way to the coast then ya wont have to wory about price diff coz youl be dead i was lucky to make it to the track before mine went

ive since got high steer from snr and run 38.5 tires and have had no probs

[De-Ranged]

Jafa I think you need to talk to the Low Volume Certifiers Association ... get them to make it illegal....
It sounds like you are very passionate on this piont... pusue it

[new2zukes]

well i was thinking about doing the flip arm method a while back now for my zuke with lux axles but got talked out of it for the very reason jafa is saying about, at the end of the day you could only have a rough truck but if there are kids about and your doing a fun family day and your steering suddenly gives way and you hit a child, what would you do?
i went and bought jafas hi-steer arms and made my own tie rod and drag link, was alot easyer and safer than any flip arm method.

martin

[andrew007]

hi jafa,
do you do any stronger studs to go in the top of swivel hubs?if so how much?
cheers andy

[Bulletproof]

Do it once and do it right.

Listen to what Jafa is saying.

The difference between life and death is probably one second .

Cheers Richard

[Sadam_Husain]

Do it once and do it right.
Listen to what Jafa is saying.
The difference between life and death is probably one second .
Cheers Richard

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even on a dedicated offroad vehicle that dosent go on public roads the consequences of the steering ripping out could still be fatal for you and/or others

Its not worth farking around with anything less than safe reliable steering

[j_tomo]

I totaly agree.
hey jafa hows about we do a group buy at a good price?
im after a set of hi-steer arms and a ifs power steering mount kit for now
jeremy

[lilpigzuk]

I totaly agree.
hey jafa hows about we do a group buy at a good price?
im after a set of hi-steer arms and a ifs power steering mount kit for now
jeremy

probably find his main customage is ore, so his prices are a good price