hey there i have a set of 35 inch creepey crawlers on my 85 hilux doublecab and they are great but im sadly selling them and looking for a better alround tyre because i will be driving to the skifeild alot this winter and dont wana chew through the tread i am looking at geting another set of 35's but not so aggresive as the creepys i have heard goodyear wranglers are pretty good on and off road can any 1 tell me how well they go or any other tyres they recomend ?
cheers brett
Goodyear wrangler mtr's 35's
Hi i have used the MTR'S on my jeep wrangler a mate lent them to me for a weekend but at the cost they were 
i went for the firestone ATX 23 at about $190 
each and they are good but dont have the sidewall grip that the goodyears have but the ATX dont like clay 
but most MT'S dont unless they cost lots os $$$$$$$ 
i went for the firestone ATX 23 at about $190 each and they are good but dont have the sidewall grip that the goodyears have but the ATX dont like clay but most MT'S dont unless they cost lots os $$$$$$$ 
Yeah, but the ATX23* only comes in a max of 31"... useless as tits on a bull. The MT/Rs are available in a 40"!
MT/Rs would be your best bet, pretty sure they are cheaper than the BFG. SupraSurf runs em on his truck (37's) and swears by em... I'm trying to see if Goodyear will bring a set of 40's in for me... just so I can cock-flop about having the biggest tyres
Steve
MT/Rs would be your best bet, pretty sure they are cheaper than the BFG. SupraSurf runs em on his truck (37's) and swears by em... I'm trying to see if Goodyear will bring a set of 40's in for me... just so I can cock-flop about having the biggest tyres
Steve
I been runnin Wrangler MT/R's for a few months now.. They are 1 awesome trye on and off road.. I've only got the 32x11.5s and got them for $200 each direct from firestone They're well worth the money.. very solid tyre. My truck does alot if off rd work everyday on all sorts of terrain & they have only worn 2mm!!.. Very recommended tyres.. 
They're well worth the money.. very solid tyre. My truck does alot if off rd work everyday on all sorts of terrain & they have only worn 2mm!!.. Very recommended tyres..
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I'd agree with everyone else, definitely recommend them, I had a set on my old lwb V6 Pajero. They dug well in mud and handled great and were quiet on the road and they lasted forever. I got mine 2nd hand and did loads of road trips in the Pajero and used it to come to work every day and they'd hardly worn when I sold the truck on a couple of years later.
Do you know someone at Firestone muddyman? That's a hell of a good deal!
Do you know someone at Firestone muddyman? That's a hell of a good deal!
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Have a look at http://www.4wdbits.co.nz/ProductsListPrice.aspx?CategoryID=5&selection=7 for a better price on 35 inch MTRs. Keep an eye on that spot for BFGs in the next few days (hopefully).
Re: mtr's
Insky wrote:hey steve if i did a shackel lift would i fit 37s?
Short answer, yes.
Slightly longer answer, yes, but you won't be able to drive it due to the tyres digging into and tearing apart your wheel well.
Much more useful answer, rear springs up front, or relocate the axle forward 35-50mm, modified torque rod to suit move, driveshaft spacer to stop it falling out (only if it does, it will put it right on the limit with your front shocks), small beating of the seam in the wheel arch of the truck (yours might already be done from memory)... then bolt on 37's
Much more important footnote: Ignore everything I just typed. You have a 300,000-odd km's getting tired 2.4 diesel... (and I've seen you drive it
) 37's will kill stuff... lots of stuff... CVs, UJ's, gearboxes, engines... and you are looking for ROAD tyres remember??? If I were you, I'd keep the kreepies and buy a second hand set of 33" all terrains...
Steve
Steves probably right there and 33"s will give you better power on the road too and might be cost effective (tyre purchase and fuel wise). If you're going to the skifield you'll probably want to use chains occasionally too ? Keep the creepies for the mud.
I've got 35 MTR's on rangielux and they are a good tyre (argubly better than creepies off road because they bulge abit better)and have a good reputation for good on-road manners too. Costly tho ?
my 2c
Keep the creepies for the mud.
I've got 35 MTR's on rangielux and they are a good tyre (argubly better than creepies off road because they bulge abit better)and have a good reputation for good on-road manners too. Costly tho ?
my 2c
Rangielux wrote:I've got 35 MTR's on rangielux and they are a good tyre (argubly better than creepies off road because they bulge abit better)and have a good reputation for good on-road manners too. Costly tho ?
my 2c
Can't understand why everyone thinks they are costly - when I was shopping for MU tyres they were about the cheapest 1/2 decent tyre you could buy in a 35" + size.
They would have to piss all over BFGs for offroad, and would be their equal from what I've read on-road... and they are cheaper, gnarlier, better looking, stronger, better sidewall tread etc...
Guys who buy $195 31" tyres won't understand, but when you run 35's you know what they cost... and $350 for a GOOD 35" tyre is cheap... hell, go price a Simex 36"
Oh, and I agree about the MT/Rs probably being better for on-road, and providing better wrap-around off-road... being a radial and all... and I can tell you the difference between running my Simex (crossplys) tyres and my BFG (radials) is night and day... much better accelleration and performance with the BFGs...
Thats My 2c
Steve
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Ok ppl,
now i may be a bit bias here, but that is cause I work for Goodyear/Dunlop New Zealand.
The Goodyear Wrangler MT/R's are excellent tyres and are winning awards overseas for been the strongest and most effeciant mud terrain tyres.
PROTECTION:
Three ply sidewall provides ultimate off-road protection.
PUNCTURE RESISTANCE:
Durawall puncture resistance technology uses a silica compound to enhance durability.
TRACTION: High-Viod pattern design delivers excellent off-road traction.
Sizes:
235/75R15
30X9.50R15
31X10.50R15
32X11.50R15
33X12.50R15
35X12.50R15
37X12.50R15
235/85R16
225/75R16
265/75R16
255/70R16
265/70R17
255/55R19
There are more sizes, but i cant recall off my head.
Now the price on these tyres is awsome if you count in that these tyres have had big $$$ thrown in for research and development.
Please do not go to Firestone or Bridgestone to get these tyres, They will not be able to give you the best possible prices.
The best place for anyone on this site to get good pricing and great service go and look at 4wdbits.co.nz
Just some more quick info for you fulla's.
OFF ROAD PERFORMANCE:
*Slight under inflation (10%) to increase footprint.
* In sand or deep mud, reductions of pressure up to 50% can improve tractive effort by 25% - 45%
* NO FURTHER THAN 50%
IMPORTANT:
Tyres must be re-inflated to recommended pressure prior to going back on road. ( 265/70R15 & 31X10.50R15 best pressure is 36PSI )
* Severe over-deflection will cause excessive heat and consequential damage.
* Low pressure = Low speed. ( Yes even on sand )
now i may be a bit bias here, but that is cause I work for Goodyear/Dunlop New Zealand.
The Goodyear Wrangler MT/R's are excellent tyres and are winning awards overseas for been the strongest and most effeciant mud terrain tyres.
PROTECTION:
Three ply sidewall provides ultimate off-road protection.
PUNCTURE RESISTANCE:
Durawall puncture resistance technology uses a silica compound to enhance durability.
TRACTION: High-Viod pattern design delivers excellent off-road traction.
Sizes:
235/75R15
30X9.50R15
31X10.50R15
32X11.50R15
33X12.50R15
35X12.50R15
37X12.50R15
235/85R16
225/75R16
265/75R16
255/70R16
265/70R17
255/55R19
There are more sizes, but i cant recall off my head.
Now the price on these tyres is awsome if you count in that these tyres have had big $$$ thrown in for research and development.
Please do not go to Firestone or Bridgestone to get these tyres, They will not be able to give you the best possible prices.
The best place for anyone on this site to get good pricing and great service go and look at 4wdbits.co.nz
Just some more quick info for you fulla's.
OFF ROAD PERFORMANCE:
*Slight under inflation (10%) to increase footprint.
* In sand or deep mud, reductions of pressure up to 50% can improve tractive effort by 25% - 45%
* NO FURTHER THAN 50%
IMPORTANT:
Tyres must be re-inflated to recommended pressure prior to going back on road. ( 265/70R15 & 31X10.50R15 best pressure is 36PSI )
* Severe over-deflection will cause excessive heat and consequential damage.
* Low pressure = Low speed. ( Yes even on sand )
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muddyman wrote:Thats very informative... thanks. Sand is about the only terrain these tyres struggle in. I done a beach run a few weeks back & it seemed the truck was struggling to get out of it's own tracks (as sand does) even with 50% air reduction..
I would assume that is due to the tyres been of a very aggresive nature and they tend to dig right into sand. Great for getting out of problems when you need maximum traction.
10 inch rims
i have a set of 10 inch rims that came on my double cab with 31 inch road tyres on them they have a huge off set on them and i have been told they would b gud with big mud tyres on them because it will keep them away from rubing on springs in hard lock should i put the mtrs on them or on a 8 inch rim? will the mud get in the beads to easily? 
[quote="SupraLux"]You'll probably find the recommended rim is 10" for those, but I would stick to 8's because it will help keep the sidewalls sucked in and the mud out of the bead. Put em on 10's and I bet you will wish you hadn't within the first couple of trips...
Just my 5c worth, i run 33 boggers with 12x15 rims, and havent had any prob with crap getting stuck in the sidewall. Havent had a prob with them in the 18 months i have been using them, have run them as low as 15psi and the tyres havent broken the bead, although it just what ive encountered so far. Its quite muddy over here in parts, so it suits me fine for getting more ofthe tread onto the ground. cheers
Just my 5c worth, i run 33 boggers with 12x15 rims, and havent had any prob with crap getting stuck in the sidewall. Havent had a prob with them in the 18 months i have been using them, have run them as low as 15psi and the tyres havent broken the bead, although it just what ive encountered so far. Its quite muddy over here in parts, so it suits me fine for getting more ofthe tread onto the ground. cheers
how long does it take to change 4 wheels? about 8minutes.
i run 28575x16 mt dunlop and would be happy with goodyears, bfgs or yokohamas for road tyres and run simex for mud runs bush work etc. id keep your creepies for harder stuff and just change them over. get yourself a decent 3 t trolley jack and a super cheap rattle gun . save some money.
i run 28575x16 mt dunlop and would be happy with goodyears, bfgs or yokohamas for road tyres and run simex for mud runs bush work etc. id keep your creepies for harder stuff and just change them over. get yourself a decent 3 t trolley jack and a super cheap rattle gun . save some money.
SupraLux wrote:You'll probably find the recommended rim is 10" for those, but I would stick to 8's because it will help keep the sidewalls sucked in and the mud out of the bead.Steve
If you are looking at 35/12.5R15 MTRs then recommended rim size is 8.5 to 11, for the 315/75R16 (about same overall size but for 16 inch rims) then recommended rim size is 8 to 10 inches. These are the manufacturers recommendation, and should be considered along with the type use (or abuse) you intend to give them.
U-BOAT wrote:SupraLux wrote:You'll probably find the recommended rim is 10" for those, but I would stick to 8's because it will help keep the sidewalls sucked in and the mud out of the bead. Put em on 10's and I bet you will wish you hadn't within the first couple of trips...
Just my 5c worth, i run 33 boggers with 12x15 rims, and havent had any prob with crap getting stuck in the sidewall. Havent had a prob with them in the 18 months i have been using them, have run them as low as 15psi and the tyres havent broken the bead, although it just what ive encountered so far. Its quite muddy over here in parts, so it suits me fine for getting more ofthe tread onto the ground. cheers
As low as 15? I run at around 8-10psi... but the difference is our tyres are crossplies, and yours have walls so thick they damn near meet in the middle... Boggers are damn near just carved from solid rubber
For a radial you want to keep to the minimum rim width, which squeezes the sidewall on the bead and helps keep the crap out. This is because the overall tyre design is a lot more pliable.
My 2.25 (GST inc.) cents
Steve
I've got my 35 MTRs on 8.5" rims and the tyres sit nice and flat still. Would be nice to have them on 10" bead locks but they work well on the current rims and also keeps them at the full height. It's true that having them on a narower rims does keep dirt, stones, timber out of the beads better - not totally, but better .
I run 14psi front, 12 rear with no dramas.
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I run 14psi front, 12 rear with no dramas.
sorry to hijack your thread Turoa.. so a set of 37" Creepys or another set of Swampers in a similar size?? Or go for the tractor tyres i really want...!
Mostly used in mud. have never done a run on sand. have had swampers for 2 years now but i suffer from the small mans disease and have to go bigger.. price isnt a problem.
Creepys 37' $390, Swampers 36' $290, Ag tyres 38' $230..
Mostly used in mud. have never done a run on sand. have had swampers for 2 years now but i suffer from the small mans disease and have to go bigger.. price isnt a problem.
Creepys 37' $390, Swampers 36' $290, Ag tyres 38' $230..
Dont follow me. i'll get stuck and need a tow..
If your not bead locking you rims better to put them on the smallest (narrowist - is that a word?) rims you can. Not only does it protect them rims but it helps keep the tyres on them. The only bummer is your tyres end up quite narrow, when compared to tyres on wider rims. And they don't seem to get any taller. I run 31 x 10.5 on 5.5 rims and there alloy. Never damaged one and I can keep them on there below 10psi (and there radials - Hankook RT01's)
(and there radials - Hankook RT01's)