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I have a 97 kzn185 Surf and looking for some things to make it go better.
is currently running with 2" lift and 285/75/16 KL71s
And has a intercooler on it

Show me what youve done.....
Exhaust?
boost?
Fuel?
ECU Chips?


Im a mechanic by trade so bring it on.

It all depends how crazy you want to go, and whats your budget ?

Dump pipe and freeflowing exhaust to get heat away from the engine.

Disconnect/block/remove EGR and clean intake of the gunk.

Get a manual boost controller so you can eliminate any waste gate creep and tweek the boost up a little 11-12psi (tinkering here not super power mod).

Aftermarket gauges to monitor the donk.

a small fan under the intercooler if top mount to pull more air through (especially at slow speeds - eliminate/counter heat rising from engine)

ECU chips would be my last choice (steinbauer seem good quality investment) as they are probably most costly.

Up to the imagination and where ever your web browser takes you.

Heath

mate of mines done a custom manifold to a bigger turbo with a supercharger aswell, It all runs through a custom water to air intercooler/intake manifold.

Fueling is taken care of with a rapid module. it makes some serious grunt and will fry the tyres at 60k's ...and it's an auto

got a limited budget not wanting to spend heaps.
Not to crazy,
Just looking at options etc

sounds awesome!what turbo, supercharger and auto is your mate using?is he using a manual pump?

burtonator wrote:got a limited budget not wanting to spend heaps.
Not to crazy,
Just looking at options etc

big exhaust with dump pipe is the first thing.
if its an auto dealing with the trans cooler is also important.
both things will help stop overheat and head cracking.

got the auto cooler
exhaust sounds like a go.

tow99 wrote:sounds awesome!what turbo, supercharger and auto is your mate using?is he using a manual pump?

Not sure what turbo he used, the supercharger is an sc14 and still runs factory ecu with after market tuning module.

His last truck was running manual pump but he reconds this way is heaps better and cheaper too!!

Oh and standard surf auto!

Bang for Buck i`d prolly be going a Turbo, manifold (or turbo to fit the factory mani) Exhaust, and a tune up.

After getting the exhaust and the gauges installed I would be going for the manual pump.
Thats where the real tuning and power begins

Water/ meth injection, Manuel pump, exhaust/ dump pipe, turbo.

burtonator wrote:I have a 97 kzn185 Surf and looking for some things to make it go better.

pull the motor out and sell it 1kz's are popular engines and throw something bigger in thats already got all the factory horsepower you want instead of trying to ring the neck out of your existing engine

i am running power chip from no limit tuning with adjustable fuel delivery and running the standard fuel pump, its delivering more then enough fuel to support whatever mods you are going to do i am running. 2.5" exhaust, front mount intercooler, water meth injection and 20psi and have a huge adjustablity in the chip i am only on setting 3 of 7 settings so have alot more room for more power if i ever decide to get a larger turbo...... i defently recommend the ecu chip but only if you have a few mods as they do deliver alot more fuel. i wouldnt use one on a standard setup alone... and will completly change the feel of the truck. didnt think i would ever see this power from a 3l diesel, having no problem smoking it up in the dry now

also running one of those hks fuel cut defenders on the map sensor to run over 14psi

did a quick search on dump pipes and found a few people on here who made their own ones up.
Any ideas on where to get one?
97 kzn185 surf

Hi guys. If IIRC there aren't any issues in upgrading the dump pipe without changing the fuelling or running an ECU chip?

Would definitely appreciate a few view points on this. The guys at Diesel Services in CHCH don't think there would be any problem. Just bolt on, drive and forget?

Cheers

Yes it will be fine, no need to worry about fuelling.

hello24 wrote:i am running power chip from no limit tuning with adjustable fuel delivery and running the standard fuel pump, its delivering more then enough fuel to support whatever mods you are going to do i am running. 2.5" exhaust, front mount intercooler, water meth injection and 20psi and have a huge adjustablity in the chip i am only on setting 3 of 7 settings so have alot more room for more power if i ever decide to get a larger turbo...... i defently recommend the ecu chip but only if you have a few mods as they do deliver alot more fuel. i wouldnt use one on a standard setup alone... and will completly change the feel of the truck. didnt think i would ever see this power from a 3l diesel, having no problem smoking it up in the dry now

hey just wondering the chip you have which one is it..... Im on no limit tuning and im seeing they have 3 types of chips for the 1kzte

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Hi guys, first post here, got a 1kzte surf, looking at doing a few mods to it starting with the basic stuff, read through this thread and a trans cooler looks like the way to go first off, followed by exhaust, then need to find a few more psi boost! Is this trans cooler any good http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-par ... 484227.htm or better off going for a radiator type cooler?

cheers!

radiator cooler is far far better.
only reason those long tube ones are any good is you can fit them underneath on the chassis rails and they are not so prone to damage.

Kaipoi repowers can do dump pipes, speak to nathan

tweake wrote:radiator cooler is far far better.
only reason those long tube ones are any good is you can fit them underneath on the chassis rails and they are not so prone to damage.

Do the long tube ones have same cooling as a external radiator type cooler? just looking to get trans cooler and coolant radiator separate due to the heat problems these engines have.

Jerry wrote:Kaipoi repowers can do dump pipes, speak to nathan

Cheers mate will keep that in mind, will look at this after trans cooler

_LowKey_ wrote:

Jerry wrote:Kaipoi repowers can do dump pipes, speak to nathan

Cheers mate will keep that in mind, will look at this after trans cooler

See if he will do it cheaper for 2 or more. Im keen on getting a bigger dump pipe as well

Xr246 wrote:

_LowKey_ wrote:

Jerry wrote:Kaipoi repowers can do dump pipes, speak to nathan

Cheers mate will keep that in mind, will look at this after trans cooler

See if he will do it cheaper for 2 or more. Im keen on getting a bigger dump pipe as well

Sounds good, Ill flick you a pm when im ready to organise dump pipe, cheers

_LowKey_ wrote:

tweake wrote:radiator cooler is far far better.
only reason those long tube ones are any good is you can fit them underneath on the chassis rails and they are not so prone to damage.

Do the long tube ones have same cooling as a external radiator type cooler? just looking to get trans cooler and coolant radiator separate due to the heat problems these engines have.

nah much worse. just look at the difference in surface area.
go with radiator type.
get one of this type http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-par ... 534078.htm
but not this type http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-par ... 658938.htm
and certainly not this type http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-par ... 484227.htm

hope that helps

Yeah think i will give the long tube ones a miss,
What about this one http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... =705760594 ??

And only radiators i can find on trademe in my price range still have the auto coolers built in, i dont have to use it though right can just block off the holes?

_LowKey_ wrote:Yeah think i will give the long tube ones a miss,
What about this one http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... =705760594 ??

And only radiators i can find on trademe in my price range still have the auto coolers built in, i dont have to use it though right can just block off the holes?

Ask for radiator for a manual instead of an auto if you want one without the oil cooler in it. A radiator without the oil cooler is supposed to have better water flow as the cooler partially blocks the bottom pipe in an auto radiator ( It does in a 130 series Surf, I'm not sure about the 185 series).

purchased alloy radiator today, and a davies craig 6 cylinder trans cooler, hopefully radiator turns up by weekend then thatll be my weekend mission.

do you guys run your trans coolers in series or stand alone? was thinking of going with the in series option and see how things go, surely itll be a shit load cooler with the cooler in series with trans cooler in new alloy radiator?
your thoughts and opinions are welcome!