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This video contains images of death.

I haven't posted the video link directly for this purpose.

why you shouldn't use D shackles to connect tow strops to vehicles, only correctly rated tow hooks when snatching.
If this does not scare you into recovering a vehicle properly then maybe you shouldn't do it.

You have been warned.


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ec7_1341527931#dcHQ9xcrR8xJDP3U.01

ya survey doesn't work and it wasn't a shackle that let go

mudlva wrote:ya survey doesn't work and it wasn't a shackle that let go

That can be worse as the shackle turns into a missile.

bob_or_jim wrote:

mudlva wrote:ya survey doesn't work and it wasn't a shackle that let go

That can be worse as the shackle turns into a missile.

Its way worse than a shackle it was the complete pintle hook and part of the chassis by the looks if the vid.
Looks like one chap wore it directly in the head

Crash bandicoot wrote:why you shouldn't use D shackles to connect tow strops to vehicles, only correctly rated tow hooks when snatching.

don't think for a minute that rated tow hooks, their mountings, bits of chassis or anything else cant rip off when snatching, the safest thing you can do is stay the fcuk away from the line of fire or stand behind someone else in case something goes wrong

don't think for a minute that rated tow hooks, their mountings, bits of chassis or anything else cant rip off when snatching, the safest thing you can do is stay the fcuk away from the line of fire or stand behind someone else in case something goes wrong

I agree, was taught from a young age that if you aren't in either vehicle involved in the recovery to stay away from the line of fire. Some methods may be safer but at the end of the day the activity as a whole can be dangerous.

Yeah ive seen rated tow hooks turn into a missile so i still going to carry on using a rated d shackle on rear of my wagon.
Think using a snatch strap with a bit of stretch is more important

stovanovich wrote:

don't think for a minute that rated tow hooks, their mountings, bits of chassis or anything else cant rip off when snatching, the safest thing you can do is stay the fcuk away from the line of fire or stand behind someone else in case something goes wrong

I agree, was taught from a young age that if you aren't in either vehicle involved in the recovery to stay away from the line of fire. Some methods may be safer but at the end of the day the activity as a whole can be dangerous.

You guys make some good points but I think crash is well aware of all of this

He is saying you should never join multiple snatch straps together with bow shackles for safety reasons, which is 100% correct.

donno bout that there bud

why you shouldn't use D shackles to connect tow strops to vehicles, only correctly rated tow hooks when snatching.

its what he said

anyways it was going to go all horribly anyway as when you pause the vid the rope is just about at 90d to the stuck wagon..
that equates to a huge pulling and shear stresses

mudlva wrote:donno bout that there bud

why you shouldn't use D shackles to connect tow strops to vehicles, only correctly rated tow hooks when snatching.

its what he said

anyways it was going to go all horribly anyway as when you pause the vid the rope is just about at 90d to the stuck wagon..
that equates to a huge pulling and shear stresses

agree ..it was brought up on another forum that the angle of the snatch worked as leverage on the bolts holding the pintle hook on loading up the bolts unevenly.

mudlva wrote:donno bout that there bud

why you shouldn't use D shackles to connect tow strops to vehicles, only correctly rated tow hooks when snatching.

its what he said

I Stand corrected

its not even missiles you have to watch out for the recoil of broken straps can leave a serious pile of destruction behind them

That video looks to be of some sort of competition? What happens when stopwatches and adrenaline combine? Well some of us end up making less than perfect decisions and things break and/or go wrong...

I have not personally used a D shackle as I was always taught that the Bow Shackles are best for this sort of thing. But that may just be a difference in terminology or me being a fastidious dick...

Anyhow I have also been brought up with the idea that a bow shackle through your tow bar tongue is acceptable, provided your tow bar is attached with decent (grade 8+) bolts etc..

Also I was of the understanding that the rated hooks are designed to fail by slowly straightening out as opposed to fracturing, again provided they are attached by the correct bolts.

As for the comment about the damage a failed snatch strap can do, I saw one fail. It sounded like a rifle shot and it hit the very upper edge of the windscreen surround of the stuck vehicle and completely smashed the windscreen. Turns out it was a knotted strap, and it failed at the knot, it was the flat end which hit the vehicle.

My 10 cents worth... I will try and dig out a pic of the damage. Cheers.

Kinda like my dodgy recovery tatics as seen in one video I posted a link to, can't beat protection of good old pine trees, just the other week I tore a whole piece of the chasis right off , makes for some wicked damage on the vehicle doing the recovering

Sorry to rehash this topic but the video above prompted a bit of maintenance of my own recovery points

My front hooks have been on there for 4+ years



3 of the 4 bolts were rusty as, the one in the centre is heavily compromised, all had to be removed with a grinder.

It's not hard to imagine these little time bombs hiding on trucks all over the country, waiting for an aggressive recovery to unleash havoc.

Check your recovery gear and have a safe weekend!

Shit. That was full on. I will look at every recovery different from now on.

Problem is, it is not your hook that flys at you

It is the truck you are recovering.

Or in this case, the one you are watching.

007 wrote:Shit. That was full on. I will look at every recovery different from now on.

Problem is, it is not your hook that flys at you

It is the truck you are recovering.

Or in this case, the one you are watching.

good point that.

owners may know their vehicles but what about the bloke at the other end of the rope??
I know that in the heat of the moment things get forgotten but this may remind a few people to check the other vehicle before the rope is connected.

a good timely reminder indeed