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Power for Mazda Bounty
Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 6:44 pm
by crozmac
Hi, Wanting to know if there is any way of getting more power from my 2002 Mazda Bounty 2.5td?
Would be interested in hearing from you for mod's I could do.
Thanks
Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 7:01 pm
by Jerry
get a mod chip (assuming its a diesel)
Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 7:09 pm
by crozmac
It is the turbo diesil model.
i have looked around New Zealand and no one sells them for bounty/ford 2.5 turbo diesils also tried a few websites.
Jerry do you know of anywhere?
Thanks
Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 7:14 pm
by Jerry
Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 7:18 pm
by NJV6
Jerry wrote:get a mod chip (assuming its a diesel)
Nope.
They are mechanical.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 7:22 pm
by crozmac
I have e-mailed them and they say they do not hace a chip/unit for this vehicle. They even tell you this on ther website they don't make one for this truck because it has a mechanical fuel pump.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 7:41 pm
by warlord225
wind the injector pump 1/4 turn and bring the boost up a couple of PSI
Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 9:06 pm
by tristanp
i ran one of these with a real hillbilly lpg setup a few years back .
basically a bbq bottle with reg, hose out the window and into the air box, find a hill and crack the tap.
only prob was trying to slow down and forgetting the bottle was still flowing.
you could head down to a wreckers and source an lpg solenoid, hook it to a pressure switch on the manifold or a microswitch on the gas pedal
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 4:00 pm
by crozmac
Bump
Any help would be most appreciated.
Thanks
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:35 pm
by smurf182
tristanp wrote:i ran one of these with a real hillbilly lpg setup a few years back .
basically a bbq bottle with reg, hose out the window and into the air box, find a hill and crack the tap.
only prob was trying to slow down and forgetting the bottle was still flowing.
you could head down to a wreckers and source an lpg solenoid, hook it to a pressure switch on the manifold or a microswitch on the gas pedal
Haha, wicked. Along the lines of diesel fumigation, try this site
http://dieselgas.com.au/home.htm. I think they now have a NZ distributor.
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:36 pm
by crozmac
Was installing an airtec snorkel today and noticed that brfore the arifilter there is a box that comes off the pipe between the snorkel and airfilter. It is all factory. Was wanting to know what this is for??? I I disconect this and block off the pipe(hole) will increase performance any??
What are your thoughts?
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:43 pm
by Aaron
Its only there to get rid of the induction noise.

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:03 pm
by Steve_t647
warlord225
Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 7:41 pm
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wind the injector pump 1/4 turn and bring the boost up a couple of PSI
if mechanical do this it is the only cheap quick soloution
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:37 pm
by xorph
they may be a half-arse 'helmholtz resinator', most trucks have them
they give a slight pulse tuning effect to increase volumetric efficiency at low revs. I wouldnt remove it.
Re: Power for Mazda Bounty
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:21 pm
by catchafox
can any one show a pic of which screw to turn 1/4 turn and in what direction? thanks.
Re: Power for Mazda Bounty
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:58 pm
by tristanp
it will be on the back of the pump ( the side with the 4 pipes coming out to the injectors)

the screw should have a seal on it, kinda like paint. take a digital photo before you move it
and only move it 1/8 th of a turn, even less.
and considering you are playing with about 3k worth of motor, invest in a pyro (or EGT) gauge to make sure your exhaust temps dont get too hot:i think 1300'c or maybe its 1250.. ask a specialist turbo shop
rich diesel + more boost=hot exhaust = hot pistons and valves = melting - remember a diesel is not like a petrol engine, more fuel means more heat
Re: Power for Mazda Bounty
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:10 pm
by catchafox
do i need to use a wide band o2 sensor or is a std narrow band ok?
Re: Power for Mazda Bounty
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:11 pm
by tristanp
its only temp thats the problem- i dont think an oxy sensor will tell you egt (EXHAUST GAS TEMP)
i dont think the mazda will run an oxy sensor
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 621858.htmis your mazda intercooled?
Re:
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:13 am
by KiwiBacon
warlord225 wrote:wind the injector pump 1/4 turn and bring the boost up a couple of PSI
But before you do, buy an EGT gauge and install it with the probe before your turbo. Because melted engines aren't fun you need to keep the exhaust gas temps below 750 deg C.
LPG fumigation can give lots of power, but the detonation it causes isn't good for your engine.
*edit*
Looks like that's already been said, but it's worth saying again.
*/edit*
Re: Power for Mazda Bounty
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 12:11 pm
by tweake
2.5TD ??
i think you guys are missing the basics.
first thing..............FIT GAUGES ! boost and exhaust temp. otherwise you will be walking around blind folded!
2nd, exhaust. unless they are one of the few that come with a big exhaust you will need to replace the exhaust with a decent highflow exhaust.
get rid of EGR system including any egr butterfly in intake.
this is probably one of those useless models that are really gutless off boost.
a boost controller will help get boost on a litle quicker and playing with boost compensator (assuming no ECU) to get fueling up a bit earlier which helps to get the boost up quicker. an EGT gauge is a MUST HAVE for doing fuel mods. really easy to over do it and melt your pistons.
Re: Power for Mazda Bounty
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 2:37 pm
by NJV6
Yes they are mechanical and they have no EGR.
A bit (very) hopeless off boost but drive them between 2000 & 3500 they go very well. If you are modifying one, make sure before you get carried away get the radiator taken out and cored, they are well known for filling them up with crud that a flush won't shift and you can just about count on a new head at about 180 000 to 200 000 k or 4 years... especially if this is not done.
Re: Power for Mazda Bounty
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 6:19 pm
by catchafox
[quote][/quote]do i need to use a wide band o2 sensor or is a std narrow band ok?
sorry my bad i got a/f mixtures and temp sensors mixed up.
can any one confirm which way to wind the screw on the fuel pump?
i replaced my air box with a pod filter and even though the "diesel" sound is louder you can hear the turbo spool up but the best thing is off boost performance is great it no longer takes ages to get up to 2000rpm when the turbo kicks in. next step is 2.5" exhaust (with egt) then bigger inercooler only then ill start tweaking the fuel pump
Hay NJv6 what do you mean by recoring the radiator, are the factory ones substandard? should i be looking for a larger one or a standard size aftermarket one ok. thanks for all the help and tips people much appreciated.
Re: Power for Mazda Bounty
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 7:15 pm
by tristanp
last one i did was on a nissan patrol, pretty sure it was clockwise
Re: Power for Mazda Bounty
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 7:58 pm
by KiwiBacon
catchafox wrote:
do i need to use a wide band o2 sensor or is a std narrow band ok?
sorry my bad i got a/f mixtures and temp sensors mixed up.
can any one confirm which way to wind the screw on the fuel pump?
i replaced my air box with a pod filter and even though the "diesel" sound is louder you can hear the turbo spool up but the best thing is off boost performance is great it no longer takes ages to get up to 2000rpm when the turbo kicks in. next step is 2.5" exhaust (with egt) then bigger inercooler only then ill start tweaking the fuel pump
Hay NJv6 what do you mean by recoring the radiator, are the factory ones substandard? should i be looking for a larger one or a standard size aftermarket one ok. thanks for all the help and tips people much appreciated.
Most pod filters don't filter well at all. I'd go back to the original intake system and try to improve airflow through it.
Re: Power for Mazda Bounty
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:16 pm
by tweake
i don't like pod filters, darn hard to fit snorkels to them

Re: Power for Mazda Bounty
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:43 pm
by NJV6
As Kiwibacon said, pod filters flow well but filter poorly.
I meant to say get the radiator rodded, not cored sorry. As in, take the top and bottom tanks off the radiator and cleaned by a specialist. $100 well spent. I'm not sure where it comes from but they clog up. (alot of experience with them - company cars)
And more power will just mean the 5th gear will need replaced even more often!

Re: Power for Mazda Bounty
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:26 am
by muddymatt
Hi 2002 should be an electronically controlled pump.
Try
http://www.dragonperformanceuk.com I was a dealer for them in Spain and fitted a few units to the Ford Ranger / Mazda bounty family.
Also the intercooler on these is really tiny! Biff it and fit a aftermarket full width one, wind up the boost a little too and she will go pretty well.
Cheers Muddymatt