surf kzn130 rim offset

For all Toyota related topics ie. Hilux, Cruiser topics
Post Reply
micahb
Hard Yaka
Posts: 265
Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:40 pm
Location: Franklin

surf kzn130 rim offset

Post by micahb »

looking at getting a set of rims for mud tyres i got. what off set is good for my truck? anyone got one the same? is there only 1 offset thatl work?
User avatar
UBZ
Hard Yaka
Posts: 1647
Joined: Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:00 pm
Location: Twizel

Re: surf kzn130 rim offset

Post by UBZ »

15x8 -19 or -24 offset
LR110 ..... LJ50 project :roll:
Chris.
micahb
Hard Yaka
Posts: 265
Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:40 pm
Location: Franklin

Re: surf kzn130 rim offset

Post by micahb »

cheers dude. what gear you run on yours?
User avatar
tallsam66
Hard Yaka
Posts: 1851
Joined: Sat Jul 01, 2006 12:00 pm
Location: Christchurch

Re: surf kzn130 rim offset

Post by tallsam66 »

Factory is 15x7 JJ 8
You have to be careful what you get... rims from a solid axle hilux wont fit...will rub on caliper.
Id go for 7 inch rim rather than 8 as the beads will hold on better when you run low pressure.
I was running ROH 8JJx15 Trak (thats whats stamped on them) but have gone back to the factory alloys...they are lighter & actually stronger & also cheaper to buy that steel wheels.
You can actually get factory alloy on 15x7 JJ 20 but are very rare & apparently they will fit ...but not found any to try on my hilux yet.
User avatar
UBZ
Hard Yaka
Posts: 1647
Joined: Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:00 pm
Location: Twizel

Re: surf kzn130 rim offset

Post by UBZ »

Factory alloys for a kzn-130 are 15x7 0 offset. They make your wheels sit inside the factory flares which then take a hiding off road.
Alloy rims are virtually un-repairable when damaged by rocks etc


I run 15x8 -19 very soon to be 15x8 -44
-19will sit the Tyre level with the factory flare
I run tractor tubes and have had the valves relocated to piont vertical .
Regularly drop pressures to 12-15psi and the mian issue i have with beads is the gradual ingress of mud .

Nearly every tyre Ive seen popped Off the bead was from driver error or mud/ crap buildup in the bead over time , causing the tyre not to seat properly.
Tube allow you to pump up the tyre agian and reseat the bead enough to get home if you catch it early enough.
LR110 ..... LJ50 project :roll:
Chris.
KiwiOilBoiler
Winch master
Posts: 10
Joined: Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:13 pm

Re: surf kzn130 rim offset

Post by KiwiOilBoiler »

Yo,

I can confirm the 15x7 -20 will work, i have OE 78 series alloys on my KZN130W, all underneath factory wide-body and same style as OE +8 (and 80 series +10 for that matter).

Only differences are silver paint rather than diamond machine finish, and the offset increase of 28mm makes the steering noticably heavier at the wheel. I use 265/75R15 (31x10.5 equiv) with no interference issues so far at standard ride height.

Also the 78 and 80 series alloys use a tapered seat nut rather than the 130's drop-shank, very important to use right nuts if you go that way or you wont have correct contact area for torquing them up and staying put.

Mine were $350 thru local ARB/Wrecker here in Whangarei.

Cheers, Adam
micahb
Hard Yaka
Posts: 265
Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:40 pm
Location: Franklin

Re: surf kzn130 rim offset

Post by micahb »

cheers guys, posts real helpful. those 40 offsets sound sweet. haha. :D (mrs is looking at my big grin with dismay). ill prob stick with what UBZ said.
User avatar
wjw
Hard Yaka
Posts: 3420
Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2004 12:00 pm
Location: Christchurch
Contact:

Re: surf kzn130 rim offset

Post by wjw »

micahb wrote:cheers guys, posts real helpful. those 40 offsets sound sweet. haha. :D (mrs is looking at my big grin with dismay). ill prob stick with what UBZ said.


If you want 40's you'll need to get the centres flipped. You'll need to allow for $600 + a re paint.
-----------------------
Who knew Prados could fly?
Big Will
Hard Yaka
Posts: 160
Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:34 pm

Re: surf kzn130 rim offset

Post by Big Will »

wjw wrote:
micahb wrote:cheers guys, posts real helpful. those 40 offsets sound sweet. haha. :D (mrs is looking at my big grin with dismay). ill prob stick with what UBZ said.


If you want 40's you'll need to get the centres flipped. You'll need to allow for $600 + a re paint.


Why would you need the centers flipped?
5L+GT35@21psi= 223RWHP
5L+GT35@30+psi= 287RWHP....

Great tow Vehicle!
micahb
Hard Yaka
Posts: 265
Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:40 pm
Location: Franklin

Re: surf kzn130 rim offset

Post by micahb »

If you want 40's you'll need to get the centres flipped. You'll need to allow for $600 + a re paint.[/quote]

no just gunna stick with 19 or 24. what do you mean by getting the centre flipped?
Big Will
Hard Yaka
Posts: 160
Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:34 pm

Re: surf kzn130 rim offset

Post by Big Will »

Ive got -44's, I haven't "flipped my centers"..
5L+GT35@21psi= 223RWHP
5L+GT35@30+psi= 287RWHP....

Great tow Vehicle!
User avatar
tallsam66
Hard Yaka
Posts: 1851
Joined: Sat Jul 01, 2006 12:00 pm
Location: Christchurch

Re: surf kzn130 rim offset

Post by tallsam66 »

Cant see the CV & axles lasting very long if your using 40" tyres on a surf..... 33 is about the biggest you can go with out them breaking all the time ( on standard CV)
Big Will
Hard Yaka
Posts: 160
Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:34 pm

Re: surf kzn130 rim offset

Post by Big Will »

I'm assuming we were talking -40 offset.
User avatar
T-Boon
Hard Yaka
Posts: 887
Joined: Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:59 am
Location: Auckland

Re: surf kzn130 rim offset

Post by T-Boon »

mine are 15x9 -39

Sit quite a way out, had 15x8-19`s and they sat fine too !
To Boon or not to Boon.
micahb
Hard Yaka
Posts: 265
Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:40 pm
Location: Franklin

Re: surf kzn130 rim offset

Post by micahb »

tallsam66 wrote:Cant see the CV & axles lasting very long if your using 40" tyres on a surf..... 33 is about the biggest you can go with out them breaking all the time ( on standard CV)


we're talking rim offset here, not tyre size dude. haha. dont have any plans for 40" inch tyres anytime soon.
vinceparts
Hard Yaka
Posts: 284
Joined: Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:59 pm
Location: East Auckland

Re: surf kzn130 rim offset

Post by vinceparts »

i have 15x8 -19 originally off of a patrol aparently on a kzn130 surf and they sit flush with guards with 32x11.5 nankang mudstars on them , i dont have any issues with caliper clearance or rubbing etc
User avatar
Filthy4x4
Hard Yaka
Posts: 1052
Joined: Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:51 pm
Location: KKK

Re: surf kzn130 rim offset

Post by Filthy4x4 »

vinceparts wrote:i have 15x8 -19 originally off of a patrol aparently on a kzn130 surf and they sit flush with guards with 32x11.5 nankang mudstars on them , i dont have any issues with caliper clearance or rubbing etc


Ive got the same setup. They sit more flush with the 11.5s than it did on surf rims with 10.5s.
Image
027 MUD GEAR - (027 683 4327)

Check our facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/Filthy4x4

http://www.facebook.com/Filthymotorsportnz
User avatar
fourwheelnoob
Winch master
Posts: 13
Joined: Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:09 am

Re: surf kzn130 rim offset

Post by fourwheelnoob »

Ive put -44s on mine looks mean. now the warrant guy failed me for increasing my overall track size by too much!!! is this an actual thing? i thought the tread block of the tyre just had to be inside the flares? anyone else had issues with this?
User avatar
trucked
Hard Yaka
Posts: 229
Joined: Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:34 pm
Location: Christchurch

Re: surf kzn130 rim offset

Post by trucked »

fourwheelnoob wrote:Ive put -44s on mine looks mean. now the warrant guy failed me for increasing my overall track size by too much!!! is this an actual thing? i thought the tread block of the tyre just had to be inside the flares? anyone else had issues with this?


I was curious about this, Apparently it is a 'thing' and is in the virm(wof manual) this is the lvvta exclusions part of tyres, quote as below.

Basically what it says is you can have wider tyres without requiring a cert providing that they are covered by mud guards or body panels and the over all the wheel track is not wider than 25mm from OE(stock).

"protrudes beyond the unmodified original body panels, but is covered by aftermarket or modified mudguard extensions or modified body panels, and the track width has increased by no more than 25mm from OE."

See the table 10-1-1 for it
http://vehicleinspection.nzta.govt.nz/virms/in-service-wof-and-cof/general/tyres,-wheels-and-hubs/tyres-and-wheels
BigBertha
Driver/Navigator
Posts: 29
Joined: Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:43 pm

Re: surf kzn130 rim offset

Post by BigBertha »

fourwheelnoob wrote:Ive put -44s on mine looks mean. now the warrant guy failed me for increasing my overall track size by too much!!! is this an actual thing? i thought the tread block of the tyre just had to be inside the flares? anyone else had issues with this?

ive come across this before with my 2wd ute, a old cert guy i knew said its because of the wider track u create it puts far more strain on all your suspension and steering components casing premature failure. thats all i could remember of what he said.he spoke quite fast.
User avatar
fourwheelnoob
Winch master
Posts: 13
Joined: Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:09 am

Re: surf kzn130 rim offset

Post by fourwheelnoob »

thanks guys, looks like im off to talk to a cert guy
bronx89
Hard Yaka
Posts: 407
Joined: Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:31 pm

Re: surf kzn130 rim offset

Post by bronx89 »

:D
Last edited by bronx89 on Wed Jul 04, 2018 8:38 pm, edited 1 time in total.
zukmeista
Hard Yaka
Posts: 2380
Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:00 pm

Re: surf kzn130 rim offset

Post by zukmeista »

Great idea if you want beads to come off at low pressures when used off road, but hey looks are far more important that functionality... :D
bronx89
Hard Yaka
Posts: 407
Joined: Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:31 pm

Re: surf kzn130 rim offset

Post by bronx89 »

:D
Last edited by bronx89 on Wed Jul 04, 2018 8:38 pm, edited 1 time in total.
zukmeista
Hard Yaka
Posts: 2380
Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:00 pm

Re: surf kzn130 rim offset

Post by zukmeista »

Oh cool so you drive in sand, all offroad driving conditions are exactly the same I spose :roll: If you're driving in muddy ruts bouncing around it's not hard to knock a bead off. Here are some threads with opinions on rim width.
http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/Forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=39294
http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/Forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=37843
http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/Forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=36009
http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/Forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=32246
Are you saying all these people are wrong? :mrgreen:
derk
Hard Yaka
Posts: 836
Joined: Mon Mar 03, 2014 5:05 pm

Re: surf kzn130 rim offset

Post by derk »

10's are sweet for townies they look cool on just about any truck 8) but a waste of time without beadlocks in the real offroad world unless you want to go around digging holes at road pressure all day :D
Post Reply

Return to “Toyota”