85 hilux solid axle surf petrol

[G34R5]

Right! need something with more power haha so the old surf is for sale. Shes an old 85 with the solid front axle, 3y engine, sitting on 31 muddies (low grip) Rancho RS 9000's in the rear with load bearing springs from a hilux, 240xxx kms.

While ive had it ive had the head replaced, full cooling system revamped, all ignition revamped too, rear brakes revamped. should be able to find receipts for all. Course while getting the engine and running gear sorted the cosmetics fell behind. so small patches of rust around her, nothing major, 1 hole in the tail gate, nothing major really, a few dings and dints, as, well being almost 30 years old you would expect that.

rego and wof still current. Snorkel as well, its sitting in the boot with all the bits there. Also got a rear lsd.

wanting around 5k ono

[bigstu]

Hi nice looking surf, straight up no chance of getting anything close to 5k, (unless buyer is stupid)it would have to be pretty well setup with all the bells and whistles, 3k maybe tops, repowering mite be a better option.
may sound harsh but i have owned a few and still own one and keep a good eye on whats out there.
have a look at my build page if repowering now sounds a better idea.

[G34R5]

cheers mate, its just ive put about 4.5k of repairs into this thing and didnt really wanna lose the money if i could help it, but repowering is an option i guess down the road, is there much involved in swapping it from the engine it is now to say 2.4 turbo diesel?

[bigstu]

Pretty easy if u can get bits off the donor
engine mounts need 2 change but u can cut them from donor chassis as well reweld in, the rest is just bolt on stuff fuel lines bellhousing clutch line etc.
bit of shame u spent so much on a 3y u could have already done a repower


This cost around $2500 to do
http://www.offroadexpress.co.nz/Forums/ ... 36062//url

[G34R5]

yeah in hindsight now it probs wasnt the best choice but when i blew the head gasket i didnt have the cash to just get a different engine and swap it out so just had everything fixed lol but righto, mates looking at putting a 1uz or 1kz into his hilux and if so i might grab his 2l-t and stick that in. In the mean time might just drop the price to 4500 and let is simmer lol

[J_Dub]

I don't believe the 2lt is a beter engine than what you got, maybe a bit more poke and beter on gas but that's it.

The 3y's are pretty strong.

You may get $600 for the 3y, I sold mine real easy for $400 a while back. You can pick up a 3rz for under $1g

[G34R5]

its just a mater of having the cash to do a swap which i dont, and i just tend to prefer diesel ae, seems like the old 3y burns a bit of fuel, maybe the carby just needs a good clean and new exhaust

[Smurf]

For what you'll spend on swapping engines, incl. cert etc etc, no point going for an old 2.4 engine.
Once you start you'll find you need to swap a lot more than just the motor to get it right. You'll need to change your diff ratios, wire in a glow system, Rev counter won't work without throwing money at it. The list goes on. Ten your cert cost to boot, then you get RUCs to think about too.
3Rz is an easier swap, more costly but more worthwhile if you plan on keeping it. Or if you want diesel, find a low km, or reconditioned 2.8 or 3L , or a good 1KZ
I know it all comes down to coin but doing it right the first time works out way cheaper than 'making do'. You will be disappointed with the increase( if any) in power from the 2.4 diesel over your 3Y.
If your 3Y is a good motor another option is look into swapping over the EFI gear from a later model 3Y motor.
2.4 diesel is ok if you look after it, keep it cool and don't drive it expecting a race car, they are slow, especially once you throw bigger feet under the Surf.

[G34R5]

it was just that this mates already running 35"s on his 2.4td and if hes going to swap out like he says then i could pick up the engine for nothing more then a bit of work but ill keep an eye out really as best would be to just have something that bolts straight in really but has the power to turns atleast 33"s and still go grunt. another mate put a supra engine in his, what they like in the likes of work to get working.... if that all makes sense lol but ill just keep an eye out and see what shows up

[derk]

if your going to repower it mate just bare in mind you'll be doing it all for love it'll leave a big hole in your pocket you'll never get the money back on re-sale , those screaming supra motors although getting a bit old and scarce go really well in luxes you have to do a bit of sump work with baffles and gates or you'll keep running out of oil and running the crank and bearings they are a car sump not an offroad sump

[G34R5]

seems like ya can pick up supra engines rather cheap but then ill have to swap out the gearbox to for it all to bolt straight in or can i just get like an adapter on the bell housing? The other thing is id only have the truck another maybe 5 years max so this is all a lot of work to put into something that ill then sell for the price of the work. so many options lol ..... starting to think i might just do a repower, simply because ill learn a shit load

[derk]

you do the supra swap as a straight bolt up cant remember what bellhousing you use mr toyo was pretty good at making interchangeable parts, some old suprahead will pipe in pretty soon and tell ya

[G34R5]

sweet so there wouldnt really be tooo much involved in the swap, maybe upgrade a few things lol what about fuel consumption? the 2jz's good or bad? haha depends how ya drive it i guess

[G34R5]

so think i made my decision lol viewtopic.php?f=18&t=42368