4WD Shops in Christchurch

4wdlover · Post by **4wdlover** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:04 pm

Hi all, I'm new here. Have been a long time reader.

I have noticed that a lot of people here seem to favour 4wd accessories as the place to get work done. Are they better for workmanship over 4wd Upgrades?

Does anyone recommend 4wd Upgrades.

Cheers
Jase

spankmeister · Post by **spankmeister** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:09 pm

4WD Accessories do a good job. I had my spring lift and shocks done by Rick, and have no complaints.

I ended up going with 4WD Upgrades for the engine because they are the distributor for the Mark's kit, so thought it made sense to go there. Can't complain about the work there either.

So I guess it just comes down to personal choice, and word of mouth etc.

Post by **mike** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:50 pm

4wdlover wrote:Hi all, I'm new here. Have been a long time reader.

I have noticed that a lot of people here seem to favour 4wd accessories as the place to get work done. Are they better for workmanship over 4wd Upgrades?

Does anyone recommend 4wd Upgrades.

Cheers
Jase

Youll probably find people wont comment on 4wd upgrades as they have had a bad reputation via word of mouth,

Summit4wd is very good for service and repair and 4wd accessories the same and for mods as well. Only places I will go in town and trust.

My 2c

Mike

spankmeister · Post by **spankmeister** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:08 pm

Thats interesting Mike. I have never heard anything "bad" about 4WD Upgrades via word of mouth, but I am fairly new to the 4WD scene. Like I said earlier, they did a sterling job with the repower, and would recommend them for that alone.

The workshop always seemed full every time I popped in so maybe theres just one or 2 unhappy customers floating about? I'm only guessing. :?:

My 2c also.

Ralfie · Post by **Ralfie** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:30 pm

Youll probably find people wont comment on 4wd upgrades as they have had a bad reputation via word of mouth,

You wouldn't be biased with that staement by any chance? Considering that Summit 4WD pay for advertising on this site it appears you favour them. But then money talks!

4WD Upgrades have a good reputation and I too haven't heard anything adverse about their work, in fact just the opposite.

Post by **mike** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:40 pm

Ralfie wrote:
Youll probably find people wont comment on 4wd upgrades as they have had a bad reputation via word of mouth,

You wouldn't be biased with that staement by any chance? Considering that Summit 4WD pay for advertising on this site it appears you favour them. But then money talks!

4WD Upgrades have a good reputation and I too haven't heard anything adverse about their work, in fact just the opposite.

The reason they advertise is because I asked if they wanted to and they jumped at the chance. And no I'm not favouring anybody, just going from what I've heard, and where I've been. They maybe ok now but I generally learn from other peoples mistakes and wont go anywhere (even for something new, id rather fix it myself than go somewhere where someone else hasnt been) where ive heard stuff.

everyone has their own personal opinion, mine is different from yours and worth just as much :wink:

Mike

Ralfie · Post by **Ralfie** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:10 pm

The reason they advertise is because I asked if they wanted to

But they still pay for advertising here so you are showing some favouritism, but guess you are just supporting your advertiser.
However since you don't have first hand experience with 4WD upgrades you probably would have been better not to be so quick to condemn them on heresay. That is how chinese rumours and people reputations ruined through a loose comment.

rokhound · Post by **rokhound** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:37 pm

Isn't all that interesting?

lilpigzuk · Post by **lilpigzuk** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:43 pm

rokhound · Post by **rokhound** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:48 pm

I'll get the ice creams then, lets watch the show

Post by **mike** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:55 pm

Ralfie wrote:
The reason they advertise is because I asked if they wanted to

But they still pay for advertising here so you are showing some favouritism, but guess you are just supporting your advertiser.
However since you don't have first hand experience with 4WD upgrades you probably would have been better not to be so quick to condemn them on heresay. That is how chinese rumours and people reputations ruined through a loose comment.

Depends on how you label heresay, If you actually know the people is that still called heresay or 1st hand? Show me where the advertising and hence favoritism for 4wd accessories is then? I guess I would favor summit as I have got work done there and rate them highly (I asked them second behind 4wd upgrades - which shows I would have had orignially favortism towards upgrades doesnt it :scratch: nothing to do with me who accepts it or doesnt ) instead of going against a gut instinct on heresay (1st hand information to me) and going to upgrades. As I said, its my opinion and thats all jase asked for.

You can pick my posts apart all you want but I stand by my opinion and will respond no further :wink:

Mike

Ralfie · Post by **Ralfie** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:17 pm

Youll probably find people wont comment on 4wd upgrades as they have had a bad reputation via word of mouth,

Interesting that you make the above statement yet admit later on that you approached them first to advertise on this site.
Given their supposedly "bad reputation" why did you approach them in the first place?

Your first comment was a generalisation, was not based on first hand experience and someone in your position shouldn't be so quick to publicly critise with such generalisations.
Is it because they wouldn't advertise with you that you want to bad mouth them so much?

Recently you were very quick to remove the postings of someone who was offering deals to members of ORE just because they "didn't advertise" with you. In that case the deal was only offered after ORE members had requested details and prices about the products.

It goes to show that you are indeed very baised and show favouritism to advertisers on ORE and you should make this known everytime you comment on/against or recommend a business on ORE.
Oh and anybody who doesn't support you automaticly has a "bad reputation"

Post by **mike** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:44 pm

so I guess this is all about me now and the crap job i do running this site :roll:

well if you must know, I approached them over a year before summit4wd and hadnt heard anything about them, so that cant of influenced it in any way!
I dont allow advertising in the forums full stop, so you can forget going down that path!!! If I let one do it then everyone will want to do it and thats not what ore is about.

Ive approached many many places about advertising to help keep this site online and I was declined by about 90%, do you see them being bad mouthed - no :wink:

It goes to show that you are indeed very baised and show favouritism to advertisers on ORE and you should make this known everytime you comment on/against or recommend a business on ORE.
Oh and anybody who doesn't support you automaticly has a "bad reputation"

As i said no advertising,benefits, or zip from 4wd accessories so you can shove that comment back up your ass :lol:

I dont like it how you seem to be taking this personally, I guess you don't like peoples opinions if they differ from yours :roll:

Mike

MATT4U · Post by **MATT4U** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:25 am

Well Ralfie if you don't like Mike commenting I will. I was first hand witness to very poor workmanship and customer service not only once but multiple times from the said business. In saying that I do know a handful of people that have had work done there and are very happy. However there are more that I know that are not happy at all.

Now using this method of going of people that have had good and and bad service I would personally recommend 4wd accessories and summit 4wd as I have heard less bad than good about them and the "other" 90% bad there for I shall not mention.

rowinz · Post by **rowinz** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 1:06 pm

I would not let them touch my truck and would recommend anyone I know against it. I had heard about their poor reputation quite a while ago, while in their old premises. They may have lifted their game now.
About 12mths ago a mates son got shafted by them, the experts. He went to to upgrade suspension and fit 33 12.5s to his 40 series. They rubbed on the guards after install, they hadn't been cut out. When challenged on it, they said "you didn't ask us to do that". What crap! They're the experts and knew they should have done that.

But on the other hand recently met a chap who was very happy with the work they had done. Perhaps it depends on what they perceive you will spend...

swampa · Post by **swampa** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 1:48 pm

4wd upgrades have done a huge amount of work on mine, i had a lot of custom work done and have spent a vast sum of money at their shop and others in the south island, I would have no hesitation at getting more work done their.

petefj40 · Post by **petefj40** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:15 pm

A message for Ralfie.

I have had recent "first hand experience" with the mentioned company. Over $16,000 dollars worth of experience in fact. (hope that's enough experience for all you chaps out there)
While I can't fault the fabricator their (he really does an awesome job) they are not sparkies. I mean you wouldn't get a plumber to do an electrical job would you? But hey, that's just my experience..

The admin on this site does a great job here! Keep it up.
Btw. My partner doesn't like his avatar but I do. :wink:

toymudlux · Post by **toymudlux** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:30 pm

they did an axle swap on my truck and it failed LV cert on the brackets they made and the leaf spring nuts had been stripped .
maybe they had a bad day , maybe they only like doing the full on big jobs and not doing the other smaller jobs (5k) ...
being a specialized contractor , i would be too ashamed to let that sort of thing happen ..
personally wont be going back ..
my 2c

petefj40 · Post by **petefj40** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:40 pm

toymudlux wrote:they did an axle swap on my truck and it failed LV cert on the brackets they made and the leaf spring nuts had been stripped .
maybe they had a bad day , maybe they only like doing the full on big jobs and not doing the other smaller jobs (5k) ...
being a specialized contractor , i would be too ashamed to let that sort of thing happen ..
personally wont be going back ..
my 2c

I'm really sorry to hear that. I can guess who worked on it.. The only good thing from all this (as far as i can see) is it might help others make a call on where to get their small OR big jobs done on their 4X4's.
I still can't believe the condition my FJ40 was in at the time they gave it back to me. It really was a joke. And that's what the next person who worked on it said, not me. :shock:

petefj40 · Post by **petefj40** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:03 pm

mike wrote:
4wdlover wrote:Hi all, I'm new here. Have been a long time reader.

I have noticed that a lot of people here seem to favour 4wd accessories as the place to get work done. Are they better for workmanship over 4wd Upgrades?

Does anyone recommend 4wd Upgrades.

Cheers
Jase

Youll probably find people wont comment on 4wd upgrades as they have had a bad reputation via word of mouth,

Summit4wd is very good for service and repair and 4wd accessories the same and for mods as well. Only places I will go in town and trust.

My 2c

Mike

Thanks Mike. I'll pop over there and get some advice the next time i want a mod done.
Cheers!
:salut:

Disco-Blue · Post by **Disco-Blue** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:20 pm

Cant say ive heard of 4WD upgrades till now but so far I have dealt with Rick at 4WD accessories in regards to a suspension lift and he has been very helpful listing all sorts of prices and its actually interested in where i want to drive my truck rather than just saying slap these into your truck. Look forward to actually finding time to go in an meet him.

petefj40 · Post by **petefj40** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:25 pm

Disco-Blue wrote:Cant say ive heard of 4WD upgrades till now but so far I have dealt with Rick at 4WD accessories in regards to a suspension lift and he has been very helpful listing all sorts of prices and its actually interested in where i want to drive my truck rather than just saying slap these into your truck. Look forward to actually finding time to go in an meet him.

I've met him. Good bloke! Personally, so are the blokes at 4WD Ugrades! But like the saying goes, "there are no friends in business". It's very true. So shop around before you commit. I wish I did. :oops:

skid · Post by **skid** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:24 pm

dammit, I ran out of pocorn :ncool: You got any spare lil pig :scratch:

Where'd Ralfie go :?:

:ncool:
Did he run away with his tail between his legs :?:

maybe he went to Mikes house to chat about this website and how it should be run :silent:

i think he managed to fuel the fire long enough for more people to avoid his obvious mate at a certain shop :thumright:

knowall · Post by **knowall** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:44 pm

just remember that the comments made here don't just affect the business's but the small people who work there aswell they also have reputations that can carry on longer than the business they work for so please make it clear in what your not happy about also im a 4wder and know a few of you that are commenting on this subject your vehicles are well known aswell as your attitudes to spending money were it is needed

skid · Post by **skid** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:56 pm

knowall wrote:just remember that the comments made here don't just affect the business's but the small people who work there aswell they also have reputations that can carry on longer than the business they work for so please make it clear in what your not happy about also im a 4wder and know a few of you that are commenting on this subject your vehicles are well known aswell as your attitudes to spending money were it is needed

they can't be that bad. they are a distributor and installer for a major brand out of OZ. I would think that if they weren't so flash then that major brand would cease to use them as thier agent. :idea:

but I'm only sitting at my computer on the other isalnd and have not seen any of there work, so I can only go by the damaging comments that are placed on this very public forum :!:

knowall · Post by **knowall** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:57 pm

I've fitted 35s to my mates fj 40 with a standard 2 inch lift with only the steering controll arm touching the tires not guards are you sure you have your facts right? rowinz

skid · Post by **skid** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:12 pm

rowinz wrote:I would not let them touch my truck and would recommend anyone I know against it. I had heard about their poor reputation quite a while ago, while in their old premises. They may have lifted their game now.
About 12mths ago a mates son got shafted by them, the experts. He went to to upgrade suspension and fit 33 12.5s to his 40 series. They rubbed on the guards after install, they hadn't been cut out. When challenged on it, they said "you didn't ask us to do that". What crap! They're the experts and knew they should have done that.
But on the other hand recently met a chap who was very happy with the work they had done. Perhaps it depends on what they perceive you will spend...

I have to agree with Knowall here. If I took my vehicle to a shop and they did something I didn't ask for, I would be pissed. The majority of people work to a budget and would have got a quote or a fair indication of the price before they got work done. I would personally be dissapointed if I took my vehicle somewhere and they did something I never asked for and will probably charge me extra for it. :shock:

So if they didn't do something he never asked for then they're only doing thier job.

How would you feel if you took your vehicle in to get a warrant check and when you go to pick it up you find they've put 4 new tyres on and replaced a timing belt, because thats what they thought it needed :idea:

petefj40 · Post by **petefj40** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:19 pm

knowall wrote:just remember that the comments made here don't just affect the business's but the small people who work there aswell they also have reputations that can carry on longer than the business they work for so please make it clear in what your not happy about also im a 4wder and know a few of you that are commenting on this subject your vehicles are well known aswell as your attitudes to spending money were it is needed

I hear ya. Just as you know some of the people here and their wagons. I'm sure people know who's the main person at fault in the company in question.
May I say. A person by the name of "Cory" who works there is not only a good bloke, but is an exellent fabricator and a hard worker. The work he has done has been A1.

knowall · Post by **knowall** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:25 pm

for someone who is drinking his tui's you seem to be of sound mind and in my experience you get what you ask for and no more to cut someones guards seems to me to be quite drastic further more you guys out there should only comment on your own experiences and not others as we all know the tongue can slip and half truths be told I try to look on the positive side of things dont think Im attacking you guys but I do live in the same world as you do and can be affected the same way if I was put under the spot light

swampa · Post by **swampa** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:28 pm

always two sides to a story, sounds like judge, jury and executioner here!

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