I have a Warn winch to fit to my 92 Safari, but have NO idea on how to wire it up.
Can anyone give a basic diagram, and explain what I hook the 2 pin plug for the remote to? (is it just a +,- to power the controller?)
It has an earth attatched at present but thats all, so being 24v I presume I need to run 2 power leads (1 to each battery?).
Thanks in advance,
Dave
Winch wiring???
OK, I have just checked my Warn electric winch wireing and one heavy cable goes & earths to the horn mounting bolt & the other heavy wire goes to the red positive terminal of the battery. My 95 Safari is 12V (as per dash meter)
but has 2 battries. I have a portable switch wich pluges into the top og the winch for forward & reverse opperation.
Can anyone help me. I would like to know what dimater & how long the winch wire needs to be to fit my winch as MAFF have removed my perfectly good one on entering thr country and also where is the best place to buy one.
Regards Grant / Warkworth kawauisland@hotmail.com
but has 2 battries. I have a portable switch wich pluges into the top og the winch for forward & reverse opperation.
Can anyone help me. I would like to know what dimater & how long the winch wire needs to be to fit my winch as MAFF have removed my perfectly good one on entering thr country and also where is the best place to buy one.
Regards Grant / Warkworth kawauisland@hotmail.com
both you guys should be fine as long as you connect the earth (green) cable to the frame work. if you have a red and a black wires then it should be as easy as putting red to red and black to black. but the most important wire is your earth !
as for length all you need is for it to reach your battery.
if you have 2 batteries then it should be 24V if there is a connection between the two cells think its connected in series but dont hold me to it.
if theres not connection between the 2 then its 12Vs and u'll have to connect to both of them but im not sure about which way will work parrel or seires give an auto sparky a ring they should tel you over the phone what will do what.. or better still ask some1 at your local club theres a good chance some1 will have wired on up.. im about to do the same when i pay for mine !
as for length all you need is for it to reach your battery.
if you have 2 batteries then it should be 24V if there is a connection between the two cells think its connected in series but dont hold me to it.
if theres not connection between the 2 then its 12Vs and u'll have to connect to both of them but im not sure about which way will work parrel or seires give an auto sparky a ring they should tel you over the phone what will do what.. or better still ask some1 at your local club theres a good chance some1 will have wired on up.. im about to do the same when i pay for mine !
I have a 24 volt Safari. Unfortunatly for you i have a PTO winch.
But i can help you by telling you what i have so far learnt about the 24 volt system, which may in turn help you to deduce what you need to do.
Both Batteries are 12 volt. They are wired in series to create 24 volts.
Between the positve terminal on the drivers side and the body work, chassis, engine and the negative terminal on the passengers side reads 24volt. My 24volt spot lights, convertor and airhorns are hooked up using the drivers side positive terminal, and a direct earth to the body or chassis.
So as for the winch, i am hesitant to offer advice for fear of damaging your electrical system, but if it where me, i would first try running the positive lead from the winch to the positive terminal on the drivers side. I would try first of all try earthing to the chassis or engine block. If the winch underperformed, i would then wack it straight on to the negative terminal on the passengers side.
My old man has a 24volt Safari with a warn winch on it, so i will get him to have a look under the bonnet for us. Trouble is he lives in Hamilton, me, im in Westport, so I'll give him a ring tonight for ya.
Cheers,
Pete.
But i can help you by telling you what i have so far learnt about the 24 volt system, which may in turn help you to deduce what you need to do.
Both Batteries are 12 volt. They are wired in series to create 24 volts.
Between the positve terminal on the drivers side and the body work, chassis, engine and the negative terminal on the passengers side reads 24volt. My 24volt spot lights, convertor and airhorns are hooked up using the drivers side positive terminal, and a direct earth to the body or chassis.
So as for the winch, i am hesitant to offer advice for fear of damaging your electrical system, but if it where me, i would first try running the positive lead from the winch to the positive terminal on the drivers side. I would try first of all try earthing to the chassis or engine block. If the winch underperformed, i would then wack it straight on to the negative terminal on the passengers side.
My old man has a 24volt Safari with a warn winch on it, so i will get him to have a look under the bonnet for us. Trouble is he lives in Hamilton, me, im in Westport, so I'll give him a ring tonight for ya.
Cheers,
Pete.
Pete,
thanks for that, I was a little hesitant in hooking it up as I didn't want to fry anything.
Just need to find a winch cradle (do you have your tow hooks mounted on a factory cradle?), try to make this crappy airflow snorkel water tight, and fix this damn brake compensator
.
Hopefully then I'll be ready to join you guys on a trip
Dave
thanks for that, I was a little hesitant in hooking it up as I didn't want to fry anything.
Just need to find a winch cradle (do you have your tow hooks mounted on a factory cradle?), try to make this crappy airflow snorkel water tight, and fix this damn brake compensator
.
Hopefully then I'll be ready to join you guys on a trip
Dave
Ahh, the infamous airflow snorkel!!!
If it wasn't for the price you would be seriously pissed with the whole thing!!
I put one on my Terrano, that was an abortion, i put one on my Safari, thats was also an abortion, and then one on my dads safari, and that went ok.
Problems included:
Template being very out with the snorkel and hard to attach to the gaurd correctly
Hose clamps not fitting
Inner gaurd section a bastard to fit, had to put screws in from the engine bay side, either that or remove the whole guard, which still wouldn't work cause you need it anchord to the snorkel to line it up.
The diameter of the hole on the inner guard section that mounts to the engine bay wall does not allow for the raised lip. Even more of a problem for screwing it on.
I didn't bother with filing out the holes on the A piller, just drilled, painted and riveted. Been fine for over 6mnths.
I attached the inner guard section best i could to the engine bay wall and used excesssive quantities of Ados Galve Bond to seel it up. What a disaster of a design!!!
The screw heads holding the inner guard section on are now in the way of the resonator box, stoping it from seating against the engine bay wall snugly, making it difficult to seal. I attacked the resonator box with the grinder and made cut outs to go around the screw heads so it didn't sit on top of them. (Does that make sense??)
Make sure you put a screw or some seeler in the little hole in the bottom of the resonater box.
Use heaps and heaps of sealer on every joint.
Be brutal with the hose clamp that holds the inner gaurd section to the snorkel, truth be told, it will actually fit!!!!
Take the hat down to your local engineering shop and get a new hose clamp, you will not get that one to fit.
I think thats about it for the snorkel. Its an ordeal, and i hope i havn't put you off. I would say that its such an ordeal that there is definatly no way you want to take it some where to get done. At least you have the care factor in being satisfied the jobs done properly and sealed nice and tight. You don't want some apprentice getting frustrated and doing a half assed job and damaging your engine down the line!!!
My tow hooks front and rear are mounted on 10mm angle iron. The rear using the factory holes with 8.8 high tensile bolts.
The front is mounted into the two captive nuts that used to hold the winch gaurd on, using 8.8 bolts again. If the winch cradle is strong enough to winch of, then its strong enough to tow of.
To make my point, the other weekend i was out with the club, we got a mid wheel base cruiser stuck.
He hooked his pto winch up to a VX cruiser on 36's, which intern was tied to me. He started winching, and his brand new, second time used cable broke. We but a two 10m stretchys out to him, attached a hilux with twin difflocks in front of me, and the three of us went all out!!!
It was terrifying.
After several vicious attempts he came out like a speed boat ontop of a wave of virgin swamp. It was incredible, a huge cruiser width furrow had been dragged out of the swamp.
Any way, it straightened all three of my 10,000lb bush ranger tow hooks. The rear one especially, the rope was just holding on by the tip of the hook. It would,t have done another attempt.
So those anchorage points are plenty strong enough!!!!
Check the rear brake calipers don't have seized slide pins, very common and have a huge effect on braking!!
Any how, gotta go put another coat of paint on my rims!!
Pete.
If it wasn't for the price you would be seriously pissed with the whole thing!!
I put one on my Terrano, that was an abortion, i put one on my Safari, thats was also an abortion, and then one on my dads safari, and that went ok.
Problems included:
Template being very out with the snorkel and hard to attach to the gaurd correctly
Hose clamps not fitting
Inner gaurd section a bastard to fit, had to put screws in from the engine bay side, either that or remove the whole guard, which still wouldn't work cause you need it anchord to the snorkel to line it up.
The diameter of the hole on the inner guard section that mounts to the engine bay wall does not allow for the raised lip. Even more of a problem for screwing it on.
I didn't bother with filing out the holes on the A piller, just drilled, painted and riveted. Been fine for over 6mnths.
I attached the inner guard section best i could to the engine bay wall and used excesssive quantities of Ados Galve Bond to seel it up. What a disaster of a design!!!
The screw heads holding the inner guard section on are now in the way of the resonator box, stoping it from seating against the engine bay wall snugly, making it difficult to seal. I attacked the resonator box with the grinder and made cut outs to go around the screw heads so it didn't sit on top of them. (Does that make sense??)
Make sure you put a screw or some seeler in the little hole in the bottom of the resonater box.
Use heaps and heaps of sealer on every joint.
Be brutal with the hose clamp that holds the inner gaurd section to the snorkel, truth be told, it will actually fit!!!!
Take the hat down to your local engineering shop and get a new hose clamp, you will not get that one to fit.
I think thats about it for the snorkel. Its an ordeal, and i hope i havn't put you off. I would say that its such an ordeal that there is definatly no way you want to take it some where to get done. At least you have the care factor in being satisfied the jobs done properly and sealed nice and tight. You don't want some apprentice getting frustrated and doing a half assed job and damaging your engine down the line!!!
My tow hooks front and rear are mounted on 10mm angle iron. The rear using the factory holes with 8.8 high tensile bolts.
The front is mounted into the two captive nuts that used to hold the winch gaurd on, using 8.8 bolts again. If the winch cradle is strong enough to winch of, then its strong enough to tow of.
To make my point, the other weekend i was out with the club, we got a mid wheel base cruiser stuck.
He hooked his pto winch up to a VX cruiser on 36's, which intern was tied to me. He started winching, and his brand new, second time used cable broke. We but a two 10m stretchys out to him, attached a hilux with twin difflocks in front of me, and the three of us went all out!!!
It was terrifying.
After several vicious attempts he came out like a speed boat ontop of a wave of virgin swamp. It was incredible, a huge cruiser width furrow had been dragged out of the swamp.
Any way, it straightened all three of my 10,000lb bush ranger tow hooks. The rear one especially, the rope was just holding on by the tip of the hook. It would,t have done another attempt.
So those anchorage points are plenty strong enough!!!!
Check the rear brake calipers don't have seized slide pins, very common and have a huge effect on braking!!
Any how, gotta go put another coat of paint on my rims!!
Pete.
Re: Winch wiring???
hard yaka did you have to remove your guard to fit the snorkel as i have a airflow to fit to my 95 prado thanks
Re: Winch wiring???
muttly wrote:hard yaka did you have to remove your guard to fit the snorkel as i have a airflow to fit to my 95 prado thanks
I cut it inplace, with a hole saw. Took about 30 minutes to decide exactly where to put it and 5 minuees to make the hole
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