Landcruiser Hubs

muddy · Post by **muddy** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:51 am

Does anyone know if the AISAN freewheel hubs off a 60 series cruiser can be swapped in to replace the automatic hubs on a 92 Prado? And would it be a good thing to do? Thanx

sig · Post by **sig** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:56 am

talk to jerry ,he has done this .there are some tricks i think

Sadam_Husain · Post by **Sadam_Husain** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:37 am

Jerrys done his and as Sig say's theres a few tricks to it coz its not just a straight swap, I think you've got to space the hub out or something like that.... Jerry will tell ya all you need to know :wink:

or plan b. is oldblues conversion of your old electric hubs to manual. :wink:

Jerry · Post by **Jerry** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:40 am

Yep DO IT...this is a bit of work and messing round but worth it, can be done you need to find the following parts:

- Wheel axle thingy off a beam axle hilux (got them off Turoa he knows the model)
- 2 sets of nuts and washer for the half shafts (Early 40 series....can get these for $10 new)
- Set of aisan hubs
- May want a new set of wheel bearings whilst its apart
- spare cone washers , flat washers and hub bolts

Tools:
Dremmel
Press thingy

Process

- Pop the wheel off and pull off the wheel axle thingy
- press the wheel studs and the top thingy of the wheel axle off
- press on the beam axle surf one
- press the wheel studs back in
- replace the wheel bearing
- fit back on truck and use the 2 nuts and washer instead of the screw on one held on by
- at the top of the half shaft spline dremel out the notch so it goes down all the way, do a test fit first and you will see where it needs to go
- fit the Aisan hub...on one side we needed to move the washer from the outside of the hub to the inside as there was a 2mm difference, strip the hub to do this

Make sure you check the hub bolts later as well as jacking the truck up and engaging the hubs and checking they work.

I still have the spacer mod washers spare if you wanted them, with these you just chuck them on and then the aisan hubs, I don't need them, one has a broken bolt that needs drilling out and you will need a new hub gasket and some new bolts...

If you want more info just yell

muddy · Post by **muddy** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:17 pm

Thanks for all that. It's not for my truck, but I'll pass on the info & see if they want to go ahead. I've heard of a mod to the electric hubs to use an allen key instead, but I gather those hubs aren't as strong anyway... Ta

Jerry · Post by **Jerry** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:46 pm

the factory electric ones are just as strong (when they are working), MarkR on here has shattered a few of the spacer kits and EVH? hubs but then he has a 3L which has more torque going thru it, OldBlue on here does the electric conversion .....the only think I don't like about that is if you loose the allan key in the bush...manuals are much easier...but in saying that they are a good cheap fix if thats what you want....

oldblue · Post by **oldblue** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:15 pm

I don't think youll lose this in the long grass :lol:

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Jerry · Post by **Jerry** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:20 pm

You'll be suprise what I've lost in the back of the trucks....

Don't you mean this...

oldblue · Post by **oldblue** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:23 pm

Gosh your quick

smurf182 · Post by **smurf182** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:32 pm

Jerry wrote: .....the only think I don't like about that is if you loose the allan key in the bush...

That allen key would make a fine keyring..

oldblue · Post by **oldblue** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:06 pm

I have made up keys, useing an 3mm bit, then easyflowing an ordenry toyota key to [ then you can fit it to your keyring ]

Clint · Post by **Clint** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:55 pm

Jerry's got it covered but if you'd like pics look in the 'clint's cruiser project' thread in the projects section I did a full illustrated writeup on swapping Aisins for the electric hubs.

Cheers
Clint

IcedJohnno · Post by **IcedJohnno** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:19 pm

Why bother swapping out? Less fretting surfaces on the factory system and they are stronger.

I have used mine for 80,000k's now and have had one stop working when a mechanic adjusted my wheel bearings for a warrant. (He did not know how to set the brushes up) and one stop working thru getting gunked up.
Regular checks found when the problem was there and they were easily sorted.
(Brushes cleaned)

I have not ripped the wires out and I would be likely to, with where I drive with big chains on in deep ice and snow.

I like the convenience of the push button hubs too.

oldblue · Post by **oldblue** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:51 pm

Not much chance of loseing this 3mm hex key, :lol:

oldblue · Post by **oldblue** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:52 pm

Jerry · Post by **Jerry** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:59 pm

Oldblues mod may be easy especially as he's close to you, really depends what sort of 4wd'ing your mate is doing...if its harder trips then get them sorted, if its the occasional icey road then do them when they break ....even then they may just need a good clean....

oldblue · Post by **oldblue** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:09 pm

Jerry · Post by **Jerry** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:15 pm

yeah we saw that pic a post or 2 up :lol:

oldblue · Post by **oldblue** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:23 pm

Can't work out how that

photo has repeated itself.

Jerry · Post by **Jerry** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:24 pm

I always blame a faulty keyboard :lol: